Jonas Densazen

Yeah, hopefully.

Yeah, we're working on that.

So our solution is used by grid operators, by DSOs or DNOs, distribution system operators.

So the owners of the local monopoly, the owners of the grid, the suppliers, the utilities, basically.

We started in Germany, then rather fast went into Netherlands, Austria and Switzerland.

Now we do have activities in whole Europe and also first activities in South America and also in India.

So expanding because we are solving a physical problem by using IT and the physical problem is everywhere where you start to integrate renewables locally into your infrastructures.

So the point is that the old infrastructure, the grid, is built like a champagne pyramid.

So this is the old perspective.

Having the pyramid, having big bottles of champagne,

filling it from the top and then it goes down.

Now, if you start to transform your system into a decentralized renewable system, then you have, it's like filling up the champagne pyramid from the bottom line.

So you need to know where are glasses, how full are the glasses, where is some more champagne needed, where do we have too much champagne?

And so this complexity, we help with our solution to handle.

And this is exactly the pain we are solving.

so integration of evs integration of heat pumps integration of ac ac is less a topic in the netherlands but a big topic in india um integration of pv of course a decentralized generation is a big topic uh combined power integration and and all the decentralized um um assets

Because in the old world, we do have big power plants, coal, nuclear, gas.

And now we're building this system or we're transforming this system into a decentralized system with small assets.

Understood.

Oh, this is based on the amount of substations.