Jonas Siegel

it may be like we have to completely build up the system where we have a bunch of kids coming up, we win some trades, we find a couple of savvy pros around, and you blend more into the middle as opposed to you being on the top.

He may say, I'm out of here.

He might.

Right, but the other flip side of that coin is you can't guarantee the next place you go is going to win.

Let's say it's Matthews, and he says, I want out.

How many of the top teams have room for $13.5 million?

$13.5 million.

And how many teams is he going there where he's not the man?

These are different conversations.

Do you want to be the man on the Stanley Cup winning team?

Or do you just want to win?

Because I think you could argue Marner...

whether you want to believe it or not, really wants to win, but he didn't care about being the man because he's in Vegas where he's not.

He's going to be a part of it, but he's not the man.

That's not going to happen.

We're like, Matthews, where is he going in the next two years where it's like, all right, you're definitely going to win and you're definitely the man.

And why would that team look at him and his playoff history and say, that's the guy who can be the man for us to win?

I don't think so.

I don't know.

I mean, you can tell me better than I. I get the impression superstar players, they have a pretty big ego.