Jonas Siegel

A guy like Ekman-Larsen, you still have term.

the dollar amount, but are you risking it falling off a cliff before you trade them?

I think that's a big part of the conversation where I could reason with, hey, you want Ekman Larson to, if you're retooling and you want to get back into the dance next year, he'd be helpful in that.

Sure, but you're risking the wheels falling off, and hey, you could have got really good value at the trade deadline last year.

How much value do you think he had?

I think he had a very good, like very good is relative, but...

I don't think so.

I think Ekman-Larsen would be close to a first-round pick.

I think that's got to be the ask, for sure.

He's a cup winner.

Again, he's got term.

It's not a rental.

But that could be good or bad, right?

Sure.

But again, it could be, hey, this guy, we're bringing him in.

Maybe the Leafs eat...

Some of it, I doubt they would.

But his contract's really good.

He's a guy that plays pretty tough, plays pretty chippy.

He's very comfortable in the playoffs.