Jonathan Blitzer
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So it's like, that's a whole, the level of waste is being, has been documented by the GAO, but it's like a whole other chapter of it.
The thing that to me is most striking about the American intervention in Venezuela this year is that obviously there was an ideological faction kind of ginning for that outcome.
Marco Rubio had wanted some outcome like that for a while.
Of course, the way he claimed it would play out would be that the opposition
which did have popular legitimacy, would in fact fill the void.
And this would be about restoring democracy.
Of course, that's out the window.
You had people close to the president who saw this as an exercise just in the president's muscles, oil theft, et cetera.
But like from my vantage point and to your question of the kind of the connection between immigration policy and foreign policy or vice versa, I mean, they sort of
obviously happen hand in hand.
One of the most striking things, and you've done, I'm so grateful to how much attention you've brought to this.
The Venezuelans who were sent to Secot, the maximum security prison in El Salvador, they were sent there in March of 2025 on the grounds that they were quote unquote alien enemies.
And the premise of, I mean, the completely half-baked ridiculous premise of that was that
Maduro, as leader of Venezuela at the time, was somehow running a prison gang in Venezuela called Tren de Agua, which not only is just simply untrue, but which U.S.
intelligence actually refuted.
But never mind that.
Stephen Miller and others saw this as an opportunity to basically...
make literal what they have always described with hyperbole, which is that mass migration represents a kind of foreign invasion.
And so this was the kind of actual nexus in that way of thinking between immigrants arriving in the United States and this sense of kind of international threat and conflict.
And so, you know, when they topple Maduro,
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