Jonathan Bradley

Heightened to this at the minute because it speaks to, to me, that speaks to the atmosphere.

It speaks to the environment.

And like Jack Ninevear did not come across as a man with a great amount of job satisfaction there.

I think that's probably the most interesting thing.

But I feel like that's the most important part of it.

Like once we strip away these sort of misconceptions about what the media should be doing, misconceptions about journalists' jobs or whether Rory called him the devil or whether Rory said he was doing a deal with the devil by going away from...

Leinster's perceived style, whatever.

This is all sort of semantics and misconceptions.

But the most important thing from what is or isn't going to make Leinster successful is the fact that it doesn't speak to great alignment.

It doesn't speak to cohesion that was probably there whenever Lancaster was there.

That felt like there was...

Publicly, anyway, in what they were saying, there was more of a sense that everybody was rowing in the same direction, whether it's intentional or unintentional on the environment part.

That's what you're talking about, that sort of abdication of responsibility.

Well, this is what I'm responsible for, and this is what I think is working about what I'm responsible for.

It begs the question of, does he feel that he has enough responsibility?

Because he obviously...

comes to speaking about not feeling appreciated.

And he says he doesn't feel appreciated by fans in the media.

But the more interesting thing is, does he feel appreciated sufficiently by his employers?

And I think those answers, you would be reading between the lines, you would be interpreting things, you might be doing it wrongly.