Jonathan Courtney

Just to get the business off the ground in one month.

Just to get the business off the ground in one month.

Just to get the business off the ground in one month.

See that? You see that shit? So it's a collaboration between Panic and what do you call them? Teenage Engineering, the company that I have like every product of. And it's just such a cute, cool thing for Panic to do. It took them a very long time to make it. It's like a passion project, but it sells like a lot. I don't know if you know about Panic, but they do like... They make this console.

See that? You see that shit? So it's a collaboration between Panic and what do you call them? Teenage Engineering, the company that I have like every product of. And it's just such a cute, cool thing for Panic to do. It took them a very long time to make it. It's like a passion project, but it sells like a lot. I don't know if you know about Panic, but they do like... They make this console.

See that? You see that shit? So it's a collaboration between Panic and what do you call them? Teenage Engineering, the company that I have like every product of. And it's just such a cute, cool thing for Panic to do. It took them a very long time to make it. It's like a passion project, but it sells like a lot. I don't know if you know about Panic, but they do like... They make this console.

They also publish a lot of different video games. They're like an aspirational company to me. I love companies that are just like doing lots of weird stuff.

They also publish a lot of different video games. They're like an aspirational company to me. I love companies that are just like doing lots of weird stuff.

They also publish a lot of different video games. They're like an aspirational company to me. I love companies that are just like doing lots of weird stuff.

Jason was on the pod.

Jason was on the pod.

Jason was on the pod.

Very cool.

Very cool.

Very cool.

We're very aligned on that.

We're very aligned on that.

We're very aligned on that.

Yes, Jason is great. We actually just moved from using Slack, Asana, and Notion back to using Basecamp after a four-year break. And it is honestly refreshing. I started to have the feeling that my company was becoming like a chat room, basically. We were just on Slack all day. You just open Slack and you have all these red dots. And what I presented to my team last Monday, two weeks ago, was...

Yes, Jason is great. We actually just moved from using Slack, Asana, and Notion back to using Basecamp after a four-year break. And it is honestly refreshing. I started to have the feeling that my company was becoming like a chat room, basically. We were just on Slack all day. You just open Slack and you have all these red dots. And what I presented to my team last Monday, two weeks ago, was...