Jonathan Courtney

Okay. You'll delete it. Yeah. I deleted social media on my phone years ago. But I'll occasionally get sucked into... You know, it's your fault that I'm back on X. I was off X for like four or five years before I did the first one of these podcasts. And then you were screenshotting what people were saying about it. And I was like, I'll just log in. And now I'm... It's so addictive. It's so good.

Okay. You'll delete it. Yeah. I deleted social media on my phone years ago. But I'll occasionally get sucked into... You know, it's your fault that I'm back on X. I was off X for like four or five years before I did the first one of these podcasts. And then you were screenshotting what people were saying about it. And I was like, I'll just log in. And now I'm... It's so addictive. It's so good.

Okay. You'll delete it. Yeah. I deleted social media on my phone years ago. But I'll occasionally get sucked into... You know, it's your fault that I'm back on X. I was off X for like four or five years before I did the first one of these podcasts. And then you were screenshotting what people were saying about it. And I was like, I'll just log in. And now I'm... It's so addictive. It's so good.

But yeah, I also don't put these on my phone. And again, I try to use this brick, like this brick thing that I talked about a couple of episodes to block things. Okay. Use analogies. People remember them. Can you give me an example of what you're talking about there in an analogy format? Yeah.

But yeah, I also don't put these on my phone. And again, I try to use this brick, like this brick thing that I talked about a couple of episodes to block things. Okay. Use analogies. People remember them. Can you give me an example of what you're talking about there in an analogy format? Yeah.

But yeah, I also don't put these on my phone. And again, I try to use this brick, like this brick thing that I talked about a couple of episodes to block things. Okay. Use analogies. People remember them. Can you give me an example of what you're talking about there in an analogy format? Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that book. You remember that book? I remember it and I love it. And I actually refer to it a lot in my training when I'm training people in facilitation.

I love that book. You remember that book? I remember it and I love it. And I actually refer to it a lot in my training when I'm training people in facilitation.

I love that book. You remember that book? I remember it and I love it. And I actually refer to it a lot in my training when I'm training people in facilitation.

That you were covered in egg juice and the smell of it.

That you were covered in egg juice and the smell of it.

That you were covered in egg juice and the smell of it.

Absolutely. Especially if you're, I think one of the best analogy formats, because I remember, so Made to Stick is an amazing book. It also talks about this concept of the curse of knowledge, which is amazing. The idea is that once you know a topic, you now can't like, you can't act as if you don't know it anymore.

Absolutely. Especially if you're, I think one of the best analogy formats, because I remember, so Made to Stick is an amazing book. It also talks about this concept of the curse of knowledge, which is amazing. The idea is that once you know a topic, you now can't like, you can't act as if you don't know it anymore.

Absolutely. Especially if you're, I think one of the best analogy formats, because I remember, so Made to Stick is an amazing book. It also talks about this concept of the curse of knowledge, which is amazing. The idea is that once you know a topic, you now can't like, you can't act as if you don't know it anymore.

You can't imagine what it's like to be a person who doesn't know this thing anymore. And so you actually get worse at explaining something the more you know it. So when I'm trying to sell facilitation training, and I've been a facilitator and a designer for 14 years, I have to remember this curse of knowledge thing and bring myself right back to the basics.

You can't imagine what it's like to be a person who doesn't know this thing anymore. And so you actually get worse at explaining something the more you know it. So when I'm trying to sell facilitation training, and I've been a facilitator and a designer for 14 years, I have to remember this curse of knowledge thing and bring myself right back to the basics.