Jonathan Ferro

Gary, good to see you.

Thanks for having me.

You heard the way we opened the program.

There seemed to be a concrete ideology when you were alongside the president in his first term.

How would you describe this moment?

What is this all about?

Do you think that's the way the business world sees it coming into the World Economic Forum this week?

Do you think it's become even more important now that that individual needs to have the ability to persuade the rest of the committee in a way that maybe a few years ago that wasn't as relevant?

There's just a sense on Wall Street that the president's approach in the last 12 months has galvanized the rest of the committee to dig in.

You were diplomatic about the four candidates.

Can I just talk about some of them individually?

You can.

Governor Chris Waller.

You can, too.

Yeah, you can.

Governor Chris Waller, I believe you were part of that process, right?

Mm-hmm.

Vice Chair Clarity, you were part of that process, too.

What was the president's approach to that process back then?

Was he as involved as he appears to be now?