Jonathan Haidt

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303 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 16 Jan

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Now parents can say no more easily.
And once we get there, I think within a year, we're going to start seeing lots of reports of different behavior.
Will that show up in the national statistics?
Not for a couple of years.
It takes a couple of years before it'll sort of show up in these big national surveys we have.
But five years.
If we don't see anything budge in five years, I would then have to conclude that I was wrong in thinking that reducing social media use would improve mental health.
But here's the thing.
This whole debate has been framed around mental health.
And so if it doesn't improve mental health, does that mean we should undo it?
I would say no.
I would say, tell me how many kids have been sextorted.
Tell me how many kids have died from drug overdose deaths.
Let's look at all the other ancillary harms, and then we can decide whether it was a good policy.
Yeah.
So I think last time I was on, we talked about a related topic, and I said, you've got to separate the internet from social media.
Social media is a part of the internet.
It's one of the worst parts.
It's the one that's hurting kids the most.
But look, all of us on this call, we're all old enough to remember the 90s when we first got a look at the internet.
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