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Jonathan Haidt

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Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

I don't know, you know, the teacher having a computer to present things on a screen. That's probably good, but I haven't done research on that yet. The thing we need to focus on next is get every device off of the desktop. Kids must not have a multifunction device on their desktop. If they do, they might as well just stay home.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

I don't know, you know, the teacher having a computer to present things on a screen. That's probably good, but I haven't done research on that yet. The thing we need to focus on next is get every device off of the desktop. Kids must not have a multifunction device on their desktop. If they do, they might as well just stay home.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

There's really no point in coming into school and having a teacher talk in front of the room if the kids are on multifunction devices.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

There's really no point in coming into school and having a teacher talk in front of the room if the kids are on multifunction devices.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

There's really no point in coming into school and having a teacher talk in front of the room if the kids are on multifunction devices.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

But we're turning that around. We're turning that around. And the reason why I'm confident is that it's now clear that student test scores have been declining since 2012. So test scores, we have national, there's the national thing, the national assessment of education progress. tracking students since the 1970s, early 70s.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

But we're turning that around. We're turning that around. And the reason why I'm confident is that it's now clear that student test scores have been declining since 2012. So test scores, we have national, there's the national thing, the national assessment of education progress. tracking students since the 1970s, early 70s.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

But we're turning that around. We're turning that around. And the reason why I'm confident is that it's now clear that student test scores have been declining since 2012. So test scores, we have national, there's the national thing, the national assessment of education progress. tracking students since the 1970s, early 70s.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

And what you can see is that in reading and math, the two areas, scores have been rising very gradually, slowly, but they've been rising from the 70s through 2012. And then they start dropping. Now they drop faster after COVID. And so people say, oh my God, COVID caused this. But when you look at the graphs, what you see is that the peak was 2012, and it's downhill since 2012.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

And what you can see is that in reading and math, the two areas, scores have been rising very gradually, slowly, but they've been rising from the 70s through 2012. And then they start dropping. Now they drop faster after COVID. And so people say, oh my God, COVID caused this. But when you look at the graphs, what you see is that the peak was 2012, and it's downhill since 2012.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

And what you can see is that in reading and math, the two areas, scores have been rising very gradually, slowly, but they've been rising from the 70s through 2012. And then they start dropping. Now they drop faster after COVID. And so people say, oh my God, COVID caused this. But when you look at the graphs, what you see is that the peak was 2012, and it's downhill since 2012.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

And it's faster downhill from 2020 to 2022, 23. And people say, oh, well, you know, it'll rebound because that was just COVID. We just got the 2024 numbers in about a month ago. No rebound. And guess what?

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

And it's faster downhill from 2020 to 2022, 23. And people say, oh, well, you know, it'll rebound because that was just COVID. We just got the 2024 numbers in about a month ago. No rebound. And guess what?

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

And it's faster downhill from 2020 to 2022, 23. And people say, oh, well, you know, it'll rebound because that was just COVID. We just got the 2024 numbers in about a month ago. No rebound. And guess what?

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

what happens is the the kids at the top the kids who are the best students their scores are kind of level over the last 10 years they haven't dropped much they dropped a little bit not a lot all the drop comes from the students at the bottom and so if you care about equity if you care about the kids who are the worst performers who are disproportionately going to be low ses single-parent families the mom's overwhelmed she can't hire babysitters the kid is raised on a screen

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

what happens is the the kids at the top the kids who are the best students their scores are kind of level over the last 10 years they haven't dropped much they dropped a little bit not a lot all the drop comes from the students at the bottom and so if you care about equity if you care about the kids who are the worst performers who are disproportionately going to be low ses single-parent families the mom's overwhelmed she can't hire babysitters the kid is raised on a screen

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

what happens is the the kids at the top the kids who are the best students their scores are kind of level over the last 10 years they haven't dropped much they dropped a little bit not a lot all the drop comes from the students at the bottom and so if you care about equity if you care about the kids who are the worst performers who are disproportionately going to be low ses single-parent families the mom's overwhelmed she can't hire babysitters the kid is raised on a screen

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

These are the kids who are being devastated. Their education is being devastated. So even though we once thought that it was an equity move to get a computer on every kid's desk, it turns out it's the reverse. Because it's the rich kids who have two married college educated parents, they're the ones who have some limits and controls at home.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

These are the kids who are being devastated. Their education is being devastated. So even though we once thought that it was an equity move to get a computer on every kid's desk, it turns out it's the reverse. Because it's the rich kids who have two married college educated parents, they're the ones who have some limits and controls at home.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know

These are the kids who are being devastated. Their education is being devastated. So even though we once thought that it was an equity move to get a computer on every kid's desk, it turns out it's the reverse. Because it's the rich kids who have two married college educated parents, they're the ones who have some limits and controls at home.