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Jonathan Haidt

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

But my point is, if you just look at the parties, the Republican party has been gutted of its moderates. Now they do crazy, insane things like let's work really hard to solve the immigration problem Oh, Donald Trump says, let's not do it. Okay, let's throw it out the window. I mean, insane stuff that is really hurting the country. So I just want to make it clear.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

But my point is, if you just look at the parties, the Republican party has been gutted of its moderates. Now they do crazy, insane things like let's work really hard to solve the immigration problem Oh, Donald Trump says, let's not do it. Okay, let's throw it out the window. I mean, insane stuff that is really hurting the country. So I just want to make it clear.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

I talk a lot about universities where the villain is the left. There really is no right to speak up on university campuses. But in Washington, I think the Republican Party is the party that's really... gone farther off the reservation, or if one can still say that today, whatever, you know, that's gone.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

I talk a lot about universities where the villain is the left. There really is no right to speak up on university campuses. But in Washington, I think the Republican Party is the party that's really... gone farther off the reservation, or if one can still say that today, whatever, you know, that's gone.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Yeah. So the answer is collective action. So for each, each kid feels left out, but what if you, so I assume you you're in contact with the parents of your kid's friends, right? Cause you gotta drop them off, pick them up. You do all sorts of things. So what if you were to talk with the parents of a few of the friends who don't have, haven't given phones yet?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Yeah. So the answer is collective action. So for each, each kid feels left out, but what if you, so I assume you you're in contact with the parents of your kid's friends, right? Cause you gotta drop them off, pick them up. You do all sorts of things. So what if you were to talk with the parents of a few of the friends who don't have, haven't given phones yet?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

And you say, hey, we don't want our kids to have a phone-based childhood. Do you agree with me on that? If we work together, John Hite says, if we work together, we can actually give our kids a fun childhood. Are you in on that? And what that means is we're gonna follow the four norms. We are not giving our child a smartphone until high school. Let's just commit to that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

And you say, hey, we don't want our kids to have a phone-based childhood. Do you agree with me on that? If we work together, John Hite says, if we work together, we can actually give our kids a fun childhood. Are you in on that? And what that means is we're gonna follow the four norms. We are not giving our child a smartphone until high school. Let's just commit to that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Now, we should be sending our kids out, in which case, like I bought my daughter a phone watch, a Gizmo, it could call three numbers, that was it. And that was enough for two or three years. That was all she needed. She could go out and do errands. She could go get bagels. She could go bring food to my office across the park.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Now, we should be sending our kids out, in which case, like I bought my daughter a phone watch, a Gizmo, it could call three numbers, that was it. And that was enough for two or three years. That was all she needed. She could go out and do errands. She could go get bagels. She could go bring food to my office across the park.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

So it's okay to give kids a way to contact you, but you just all agree, no smartphone. And you all agree, no social media until 16. And that even includes Snapchat, which is what the kids are using to communicate, but just lots of bad stuff happens on Snapchat. And it just makes them-

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

So it's okay to give kids a way to contact you, but you just all agree, no smartphone. And you all agree, no social media until 16. And that even includes Snapchat, which is what the kids are using to communicate, but just lots of bad stuff happens on Snapchat. And it just makes them-

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Yeah. Well, yes, if you can, it's hard to hold the line on your own. It's much easier if you have three of you holding the line, but it's even better if it's not holding a line, it's offering a more positive vision of childhood. So you and the kid, so your kid and the other kids who were your parents who all agree,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Yeah. Well, yes, if you can, it's hard to hold the line on your own. It's much easier if you have three of you holding the line, but it's even better if it's not holding a line, it's offering a more positive vision of childhood. So you and the kid, so your kid and the other kids who were your parents who all agree,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

You make extra efforts to give your kids an exciting, fun childhood where they do exciting things together. The other kids can be home on their bed swiping all day long. Let them do that. They're going to end up basically anxious and never having really done anything to grow up.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

You make extra efforts to give your kids an exciting, fun childhood where they do exciting things together. The other kids can be home on their bed swiping all day long. Let them do that. They're going to end up basically anxious and never having really done anything to grow up.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Whereas your kids are getting together for four-way sleepovers where you're taking them, you know, bowling and you just, you know, you just, well, to the extent that you're allowed to, you step back, like you let them be self-governing. You know, you give them money, you give them an allowance, I suggest in the book, be really clear about chores, allowance, and encourage them.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Whereas your kids are getting together for four-way sleepovers where you're taking them, you know, bowling and you just, you know, you just, well, to the extent that you're allowed to, you step back, like you let them be self-governing. You know, you give them money, you give them an allowance, I suggest in the book, be really clear about chores, allowance, and encourage them.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Go ride your bicycles down and go get ice cream. You know, go get ice cream just before dinner for all I care. Be a little rebellious. So if you, you know, we've really taken almost all the fun out of childhood. There's very little adventure left in childhood.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Jonathan Haidt | The All-In Interview

Go ride your bicycles down and go get ice cream. You know, go get ice cream just before dinner for all I care. Be a little rebellious. So if you, you know, we've really taken almost all the fun out of childhood. There's very little adventure left in childhood.