Jonathan Haidt

So my point is we have to kind of prepare the ground.

We have to do a lot of things at the same time.

So one thing we have to do is we have to roll back.

We have to make it clear in every state law that giving your kid independence can never be used as evidence of child abuse.

If you're, there was a case in Georgia, a kid, a 10 year old kid left the house, walked to town, got some candy or something.

The mother was put in jail, literally put in jail because her 10 year old child was, somebody called the police.

They saw a 10 year old unaccompanied, police came.

The mother didn't seem to mind.

She said, well, he, you know, he went for a walk.

So she was arrested.

And this puts the fear of God into all of us about letting our kids out.

So what I'm saying is we got to recognize kids have to be out in the world and we have to help them and laws have to change that parents aren't afraid to do that.

And we have to try to help each other, send your kids over to your neighbor's house to do something, to your cousin, to your aunt, like let them move around.

Let them not just sit in your basement or on your sofa.

Same with me, although I didn't grow up in the Bronx.

And you and I grew up during the 70s, I suppose.

There was a crime wave in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

Yes, big crime wave in the 70s.

So actually, so I guess the quickest answer to your question is what I do in the Anxious Generation is I propose four norms that we can coordinate.

It's very hard for a parent to just decide to raise their kid in the right way now, because the kid's isolated.