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Jonathan Hirsch

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

It's also kind of dangerous.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Like, do you say no to this person?

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Are they going to hurt you?

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Exactly.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

You've been unwittingly like roped into a criminal conspiracy at that point.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

So what do you say?

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

The plan fell apart though, because another friend of theirs had heard about this plot and had like warned Bart's parents.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Ideating on the possibility.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

And I think Kent had dismissed some of those earlier situations as just- Teenage angst.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Yeah, exactly.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

He didn't really connect the dots until much later, obviously.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Okay, so detectives are digging into Bart's old roommate, Adam, and what he reported.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

And as they were doing that, they discovered this was not just like a one-off comment, but a pattern of behavior.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

He had reached out to other roommates as early as December of 2000 to try to orchestrate some kind of ambush plot inside of the house, similar to the one that happened

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

that was successful, except in this case, the home alarm went off when they were inside the house.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

And when the relatives approached, they didn't enter the house.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Exactly.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

Yeah.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

And I mean, it's so clear that this person had been planning this as they start to unravel and hear from different people.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Crime Scene: The Sugar Land Murders โ€” When Kids Kill

They've been planning this for a long, a long time.