Jonathan Hirsch
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674 appearances
7 recordings
3 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard 13 Apr
Jonathan Hirsch’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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That long walk to the edge of the water, towards a senseless tragedy. A senseless tragedy the Cleaver family now believes was no accident. Lynn Fairchild had heard his fiancée Sandra's cries for help and alerted the fire department. Two people went out into the water that day, and only one returned. And then that night, with Devereaux missing, the phone rang at Chuck and Gail's house.
Gail answered, and a woman was on the other end of the line. It wasn't Sandra. It was Terry Hoffman.
She thought, why the hell was Terry Hoffman calling us? A long and terrible night of uncertainty followed. The next day, Chuck boarded the first plane to Hawaii in search of his daughter with his best friend, Jean Coker.
Before boarding the plane, they got the word. Dev's body washed ashore.
Chuck arrived at the hospital by that afternoon, where Sandra was recovering.
And so Chuck sat in the hospital room with his ex-wife. All of his worst fears confirmed about letting his daughter go with Sandra and her weird friends on a vacation halfway across the world. How did they get to this point? A happy young couple once, a beautiful daughter, to this?
For a moment, it seemed, despite the cavernous depth separating Chuck and Sandra from each other, that they would be able to grieve together, father and mother. That is, until Terry showed up.
almost as if she couldn't show herself to her friend Terry in that moment. Couldn't appear to be the grieving mother she most certainly was. When Terry came in, she made some quick dismissive comments about their situation. Chuck's best friend Gene was there too. He said a glaze came over Sandy's eyes. Communication was shut down after that. There was something weighing on Chuck's mind.
A growing suspicion. A tangled mess of grief, fear, and rage.
His daughter's body in the cargo of the plane and a nine-hour flight to think about what had happened to her. Chuck knew he didn't have all the information yet, but something wasn't right. He'd questioned why the trip was happening in the first place. And now this, why did they choose to swim out there? And why had Sandra acted so strange when Terry came into the hospital room?
Dev's body was transferred to the medical examiner in Dallas. The tox screen came up negative. An autopsy showed no sign of struggle. Nothing strange. If someone had had a hand in Devereaux's death, it wasn't physical. She was then transported to a funeral home. Chuck wanted the girls to have closure, so he brought them all there to view Dev's body before she was cremated.
Gail remembers seeing her face like it was yesterday. There was still seaweed in her hair. But something altogether strange had happened while Chuck and Jean were in flight back to Honolulu. Gail got a call to the house. It was one of Terry Hoffman's children. They said they had a document they needed to show the family. A will. Devereaux's will.
A will that she had written that Chuck didn't know anything about. A couple of days after they'd been informed of the will, an unidentified woman entered a Dallas bank where Devereux had an account and handed the teller the document. The woman was looking to make a withdrawal from the account because, according to the will, this dead girl had given all of her money away to Terry Hoffman.
Now Chuck and Gail knew there was no doubt in their minds what had happened to their daughter. And there was nothing they could do about it. Why do you think it was so difficult to tie Terry to these deaths?
This season on Scary Terry.
I go searching for answers.
A dozen people are dead.
Was Terry Hoffman the Charlie Manson you've never heard of?
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