Jonathan Hirsch

It actually makes it easier for you to rationalize weird and dangerous shit because you can find a reason it might be good for you in the long run. The thoughts about leaving Terry were growing in Janine's mind, blooming out of a black seed, a seed poisoned by a leader who now seemed completely divorced from reality so as to be alarming.

Janine couldn't confirm for me when she officially left CDBMS, but it was in the mid to late 70s, late 76, early 77. And Terry did not take it well.

Janine couldn't confirm for me when she officially left CDBMS, but it was in the mid to late 70s, late 76, early 77. And Terry did not take it well.

Janine couldn't confirm for me when she officially left CDBMS, but it was in the mid to late 70s, late 76, early 77. And Terry did not take it well.

I've heard other accounts of Terry doing this, calling out specific members or enemies and announcing that they were a black lord, a danger to the group. But now Janine heard her son was a target, a little kid.

I've heard other accounts of Terry doing this, calling out specific members or enemies and announcing that they were a black lord, a danger to the group. But now Janine heard her son was a target, a little kid.

I've heard other accounts of Terry doing this, calling out specific members or enemies and announcing that they were a black lord, a danger to the group. But now Janine heard her son was a target, a little kid.

To eliminate all doubt about what Janine just described, she believed Terry had marshaled dark energy from her followers, causing Janine to run over her son's arm.

To eliminate all doubt about what Janine just described, she believed Terry had marshaled dark energy from her followers, causing Janine to run over her son's arm.

To eliminate all doubt about what Janine just described, she believed Terry had marshaled dark energy from her followers, causing Janine to run over her son's arm.

Janine left Terry behind, moved on, and tried not to follow up on it all, she told me. The rest of the members of CDBMS, they went right on into an alternative reality that didn't exist. Except for one person. Terry's second husband, Glenn Cooley. Next time on Scary Terry.

Janine left Terry behind, moved on, and tried not to follow up on it all, she told me. The rest of the members of CDBMS, they went right on into an alternative reality that didn't exist. Except for one person. Terry's second husband, Glenn Cooley. Next time on Scary Terry.

Janine left Terry behind, moved on, and tried not to follow up on it all, she told me. The rest of the members of CDBMS, they went right on into an alternative reality that didn't exist. Except for one person. Terry's second husband, Glenn Cooley. Next time on Scary Terry.

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Drowning, freak accidents, double suicides, murder. A dozen people from Dallas, Texas died mysteriously. All of them had one person in common, a spiritual leader by the name of Terry Hoffman.