Jonathan McRae

Are we not talking about like independence, not independency?

What's the one with all the, the one in the future where all the, everything turns to ice?

Because I thought it was more significant than more storms and hotter and colder.

Yeah.

And this story has gone back and forth a bit.

There was like, this was going to be really bad and it's going to happen really soon.

And then there was like, nah, it's not.

But now it looks like more evidence is pointing towards that actually being the worst case scenario.

Yeah, but mitigation of this sort of level of climatic change, there's only so much you can really do, right?

I mean, like... It requires collaboration.

Yeah, yeah.

With God, I would imagine.

Right.

Our second story, Matthew, is a slightly more upbeat one.

It's to do with the Epstein-Barr virus.

Now, this became a very interesting virus about two years ago because of its potential link to multiple sclerosis.

Yeah.

And the analogue, I suppose, here is cervical cancer, HPV, you know, this seemingly innocuous virus that everyone gets, you know, once they reach sort of the age of 60.

you know, sexual activity, it's everywhere, but it doesn't affect everybody in a negative way.

But some people, it gives them cervical cancer.