Jonathan Penner

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619 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 25 Apr

Jonathan Penner’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 2 in all, peaking in Apr 2026 with 2.

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And we don't know when we've done enough.

Because people scoreboard watch.

Life becomes about wins and losses.

Steve Burns, Dustin Ross.

Because you find it important to be a good person while you're here on earth?

Or are you a good person because you're afraid?

Because that's two different intentions, bro.

Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust.

I want you to just really be a good person.

Join me, Kia Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way.

Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack.

I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know.

I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.

So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.

Thank you for finishing that sentence.

Yes.

I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really?

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