Jonathan Schanzer
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You're not going to hear the Arab world say that it's a great thing, but I think it's the reality. I agree with you 100%.
One is it can't be Hamas. And there's talk right now of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority having some kind of technocratic leadership solution where they would together try to govern Gaza. I don't see the Israelis agreeing to it. They don't want to let Hamas in or let Hamas back in any demonstrable way. And they don't like the PA. I mean, the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank is corrupt.
One is it can't be Hamas. And there's talk right now of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority having some kind of technocratic leadership solution where they would together try to govern Gaza. I don't see the Israelis agreeing to it. They don't want to let Hamas in or let Hamas back in any demonstrable way. And they don't like the PA. I mean, the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank is corrupt.
One is it can't be Hamas. And there's talk right now of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority having some kind of technocratic leadership solution where they would together try to govern Gaza. I don't see the Israelis agreeing to it. They don't want to let Hamas in or let Hamas back in any demonstrable way. And they don't like the PA. I mean, the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank is corrupt.
You got a guy who's in his 80s, who's been in power since 2005. It's a disaster over there too. So I think what the Israelis are looking for right now is truly new leadership, clean leadership, You know, a leader or a group of people that are, I think, interested in trying to build Gaza into something sustainable. Now, there are people who are talking about turning it into Singapore.
You got a guy who's in his 80s, who's been in power since 2005. It's a disaster over there too. So I think what the Israelis are looking for right now is truly new leadership, clean leadership, You know, a leader or a group of people that are, I think, interested in trying to build Gaza into something sustainable. Now, there are people who are talking about turning it into Singapore.
You got a guy who's in his 80s, who's been in power since 2005. It's a disaster over there too. So I think what the Israelis are looking for right now is truly new leadership, clean leadership, You know, a leader or a group of people that are, I think, interested in trying to build Gaza into something sustainable. Now, there are people who are talking about turning it into Singapore.
Let's be honest. Gaza is not Singapore. I mean, you could turn it into something viable, but I don't think we should exaggerate here. But I think really what we're looking for right now is leadership that's going to be endorsed by some of those pragmatic states in the Gulf.
Let's be honest. Gaza is not Singapore. I mean, you could turn it into something viable, but I don't think we should exaggerate here. But I think really what we're looking for right now is leadership that's going to be endorsed by some of those pragmatic states in the Gulf.
Let's be honest. Gaza is not Singapore. I mean, you could turn it into something viable, but I don't think we should exaggerate here. But I think really what we're looking for right now is leadership that's going to be endorsed by some of those pragmatic states in the Gulf.
So, whether it's the Emiratis, the Bahrainis, the Saudis, some of Israel's better peace partners or better potential peace partners, having the endorsement of these countries, knowing that they are going to be, at the end of the day, the patrons of the people that inherit
So, whether it's the Emiratis, the Bahrainis, the Saudis, some of Israel's better peace partners or better potential peace partners, having the endorsement of these countries, knowing that they are going to be, at the end of the day, the patrons of the people that inherit
So, whether it's the Emiratis, the Bahrainis, the Saudis, some of Israel's better peace partners or better potential peace partners, having the endorsement of these countries, knowing that they are going to be, at the end of the day, the patrons of the people that inherit
leadership in gaza i think that's really important for the israelis i think packaging this as part of a broader um you know extension of the abraham of course we're watching of course saudi arabia uh when the trump administration comes in they're gonna start feeling the heat they're gonna i mean the the trump administration the last time around had them on the five yard line
leadership in gaza i think that's really important for the israelis i think packaging this as part of a broader um you know extension of the abraham of course we're watching of course saudi arabia uh when the trump administration comes in they're gonna start feeling the heat they're gonna i mean the the trump administration the last time around had them on the five yard line
leadership in gaza i think that's really important for the israelis i think packaging this as part of a broader um you know extension of the abraham of course we're watching of course saudi arabia uh when the trump administration comes in they're gonna start feeling the heat they're gonna i mean the the trump administration the last time around had them on the five yard line
they were ready to pull the trigger on a normalization deal uh trump lost and as a result you know the normalization progress really experienced some crazy setbacks i think biden really snatched a feed from the jaws of victory there uh but i think with the saudis coming or with the trump administration coming back and the saudis know
they were ready to pull the trigger on a normalization deal uh trump lost and as a result you know the normalization progress really experienced some crazy setbacks i think biden really snatched a feed from the jaws of victory there uh but i think with the saudis coming or with the trump administration coming back and the saudis know
they were ready to pull the trigger on a normalization deal uh trump lost and as a result you know the normalization progress really experienced some crazy setbacks i think biden really snatched a feed from the jaws of victory there uh but i think with the saudis coming or with the trump administration coming back and the saudis know
that it's going to be on the table again, we may be able to create a new reality with Gaza in the mix. I think that shows some promise right now, but let's not get too giddy. There's a lot that needs to happen before that moment.