Jonathan Schanzer
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that it's going to be on the table again, we may be able to create a new reality with Gaza in the mix. I think that shows some promise right now, but let's not get too giddy. There's a lot that needs to happen before that moment.
that it's going to be on the table again, we may be able to create a new reality with Gaza in the mix. I think that shows some promise right now, but let's not get too giddy. There's a lot that needs to happen before that moment.
I'm not optimistic in general. I mean, I think we've just watched a 14 month war play out in the Middle East. It's probably going to stretch into a 15th month before it ends, if it ends at all. And I would probably also expect chaos to continue in the West Bank. I'm not
I'm not optimistic in general. I mean, I think we've just watched a 14 month war play out in the Middle East. It's probably going to stretch into a 15th month before it ends, if it ends at all. And I would probably also expect chaos to continue in the West Bank. I'm not
I'm not optimistic in general. I mean, I think we've just watched a 14 month war play out in the Middle East. It's probably going to stretch into a 15th month before it ends, if it ends at all. And I would probably also expect chaos to continue in the West Bank. I'm not
Convinced that the Houthis are going to stop firing on Israel or on American warships in the Red Sea, even if a ceasefire deal is struck, even if the Iranians stop firing, even if Hezbollah stops firing. I'm not sure that this whole thing goes quiet. And with the Middle East still on war footing, it's going to get even harder to find that political leadership that can step in.
Convinced that the Houthis are going to stop firing on Israel or on American warships in the Red Sea, even if a ceasefire deal is struck, even if the Iranians stop firing, even if Hezbollah stops firing. I'm not sure that this whole thing goes quiet. And with the Middle East still on war footing, it's going to get even harder to find that political leadership that can step in.
Convinced that the Houthis are going to stop firing on Israel or on American warships in the Red Sea, even if a ceasefire deal is struck, even if the Iranians stop firing, even if Hezbollah stops firing. I'm not sure that this whole thing goes quiet. And with the Middle East still on war footing, it's going to get even harder to find that political leadership that can step in.
I do think, though, that at some point we are eventually going to see Mahmoud Abbas or Abu Mazen, as he's known, the president of the Palestinian Authority, He's getting up there in age. He's not well. At some point, he's going to leave the scene. That will give an opportunity to the Palestinians in the West Bank to select new leadership and to perhaps begin to Rebuild anew.
I do think, though, that at some point we are eventually going to see Mahmoud Abbas or Abu Mazen, as he's known, the president of the Palestinian Authority, He's getting up there in age. He's not well. At some point, he's going to leave the scene. That will give an opportunity to the Palestinians in the West Bank to select new leadership and to perhaps begin to Rebuild anew.
I do think, though, that at some point we are eventually going to see Mahmoud Abbas or Abu Mazen, as he's known, the president of the Palestinian Authority, He's getting up there in age. He's not well. At some point, he's going to leave the scene. That will give an opportunity to the Palestinians in the West Bank to select new leadership and to perhaps begin to Rebuild anew.
And that could include the Gaza Strip. And so I think that there are things that are coming down the pike when I'm not sure. Look, if you ask me, I think Donald Trump should come out early on in his new administration and say, hey, Abu Mazen, you've been in power since 2005. Get out. Your time's up, right? You've been in power now for far too long. You're almost 20 years into a four-year term.
And that could include the Gaza Strip. And so I think that there are things that are coming down the pike when I'm not sure. Look, if you ask me, I think Donald Trump should come out early on in his new administration and say, hey, Abu Mazen, you've been in power since 2005. Get out. Your time's up, right? You've been in power now for far too long. You're almost 20 years into a four-year term.
And that could include the Gaza Strip. And so I think that there are things that are coming down the pike when I'm not sure. Look, if you ask me, I think Donald Trump should come out early on in his new administration and say, hey, Abu Mazen, you've been in power since 2005. Get out. Your time's up, right? You've been in power now for far too long. You're almost 20 years into a four-year term.
Maybe it's time you step aside and let the Palestinians experience leadership that's going to be more effective. Do that and begin to have conversations with a new, pragmatic, I think, forward-looking, moderate leader on the West Bank side of things. You may begin to see some breakthroughs.
Maybe it's time you step aside and let the Palestinians experience leadership that's going to be more effective. Do that and begin to have conversations with a new, pragmatic, I think, forward-looking, moderate leader on the West Bank side of things. You may begin to see some breakthroughs.
Maybe it's time you step aside and let the Palestinians experience leadership that's going to be more effective. Do that and begin to have conversations with a new, pragmatic, I think, forward-looking, moderate leader on the West Bank side of things. You may begin to see some breakthroughs.
That would be ideal, again, you know, with encouragement coming from Saudi, from the Emirates, and from some of other peace partners that Israel actually trusts. I would say, by the way, Egypt and Jordan probably don't qualify.
That would be ideal, again, you know, with encouragement coming from Saudi, from the Emirates, and from some of other peace partners that Israel actually trusts. I would say, by the way, Egypt and Jordan probably don't qualify.
That would be ideal, again, you know, with encouragement coming from Saudi, from the Emirates, and from some of other peace partners that Israel actually trusts. I would say, by the way, Egypt and Jordan probably don't qualify.