Jonathan Swan

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362 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 15 Jul

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And then shortly before that press conference, he's meeting behind the scenes with some of his aides.

And he says, well, what do you think about this idea?

And his national security advisor at the time, Mike Waltz, is there.

And he, as a veteran, understands

the military component of what something like this would entail.

And he said he made clear to the president that you need to make clear that we're not going to put American boots on the ground.

And then there's this sort of pause.

And Trump turns to his communications director, Stephen Chung.

He says, what do you think?

You like this idea?

And there's this sort of pause.

And Chung says, it's a strong move, sir.

So, you know, this was about as unvetted a proposal as you could imagine.

But the way it was presented, it was like people thought this was a fully formed idea.

And we talked to senior people in the government who are watching this presentation, and they were just aghast.

Very much so.

I mean, this term is unrecognizable from term one.

And I still think a lot of people view Trump through the lens or at least his administration and government through the lens of the first term.

It just couldn't be more different.

One of the ways in which it's different is the team around him.

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