Jonathan Swan

I think until Congress changes hands, you're going to see what Maggie just laid out, with the one exception being they are absolutely second guessing their trade war and their tariff policy. But in every other aspect, it's not like there's somebody in there saying, Mr. President, you need to stop doing X, Y, and Z. That doesn't exist.

I think until Congress changes hands, you're going to see what Maggie just laid out, with the one exception being they are absolutely second guessing their trade war and their tariff policy. But in every other aspect, it's not like there's somebody in there saying, Mr. President, you need to stop doing X, Y, and Z. That doesn't exist.

And I thought it was a really good conversation, actually, between our colleagues, Ezra Klein and Ross Douthat. They got at something that Maggie and I talk about all the time, which is that

And I thought it was a really good conversation, actually, between our colleagues, Ezra Klein and Ross Douthat. They got at something that Maggie and I talk about all the time, which is that

For people who are working for him, particularly people who've been with him for the last four years, and they've watched this person be the pariah after January 6th, indicted in four different jurisdictions, criminally convicted, literally shot like an inch from dying. Right. And then he wins the presidency and comes back to the Oval Office.

For people who are working for him, particularly people who've been with him for the last four years, and they've watched this person be the pariah after January 6th, indicted in four different jurisdictions, criminally convicted, literally shot like an inch from dying. Right. And then he wins the presidency and comes back to the Oval Office.

There is a mystical... There's a kind of mystical quality was what our colleagues said. Yeah, that is the word they used. And it's like, this guy must know something that we don't know. And so it's a different element when you have things that in the first term, when Trump was like, let's tariff the world, Gary Cohn or Steve Mnuchin would be like, no, that's insane. Let's not tariff the world.

There is a mystical... There's a kind of mystical quality was what our colleagues said. Yeah, that is the word they used. And it's like, this guy must know something that we don't know. And so it's a different element when you have things that in the first term, when Trump was like, let's tariff the world, Gary Cohn or Steve Mnuchin would be like, no, that's insane. Let's not tariff the world.

You don't have those conversations anymore. You have an argument within narrower margins. Should we give this exemption? Should we give that exemption? So There is a deference to his instincts that is genuine and powerful and not just a bunch of toady sycophants who are submerging their own views to serve Orange God. It's actually something much deeper than that.

You don't have those conversations anymore. You have an argument within narrower margins. Should we give this exemption? Should we give that exemption? So There is a deference to his instincts that is genuine and powerful and not just a bunch of toady sycophants who are submerging their own views to serve Orange God. It's actually something much deeper than that.

Thanks so much. Thank you.

Thanks so much. Thank you.

Last week, President Trump explicitly directed the Justice Department to scrutinize Chris Krebs to see if it can find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing. How is that not an abuse of power to direct the Justice Department to look into an individual, a named individual?

Last week, President Trump explicitly directed the Justice Department to scrutinize Chris Krebs to see if it can find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing. How is that not an abuse of power to direct the Justice Department to look into an individual, a named individual?

Last week, President Trump explicitly directed the Justice Department to scrutinize Chris Krebs to see if it can find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing. How is that not an abuse of power to direct the Justice Department to look into an individual, a named individual?

Well, if you listen to the public explanations from his aides... This negotiation went exactly the way we had hoped it would go.

Well, if you listen to the public explanations from his aides... This negotiation went exactly the way we had hoped it would go.

And then... Can you walk us through what you're thinking about why you decided to put a 90-day pause? Well, I thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line. They were getting yippy, you know? They were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit...

And then... Can you walk us through what you're thinking about why you decided to put a 90-day pause? Well, I thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line. They were getting yippy, you know? They were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit...

The bond market right now is beautiful.