Jonathan V. Last

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2,498 appearances 12 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 5d ago

Jonathan V. Last’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The Bulwark Daily · Jonathan V. Last and Robert Kagan: Marco and Miller Go Full Fascist · 29 Jul 2026 podcast

Go back through the Jim Crow era, that's all political violence, basically, right? voice-verified

We had a civil war. voice-verified

The buildup to the Civil War was incredible amounts of political violence, bloody Kansas, et cetera, et cetera. voice-verified

But it's new for us, right? voice-verified

Like, it's new for the modern political world that most of us have lived our entire lives in. voice-verified

And what brought this about was Donald Trump. voice-verified

So Donald Trump was the guy who brought political violence back by sanctioning it. voice-verified

And here's what I want to run past you. voice-verified

So my my colleague Sarah Longwell and I have this long running debate over Republican voters and what it was about Trump that attracted them. voice-verified

And my thesis is. voice-verified

is that for them, the violence that Trump promised was the special sauce. voice-verified

It wasn't the thing they overlooked. voice-verified

It was the thing that they liked about him. voice-verified

And the reason I say this is because Rick Santorum runs as a populist conservative insurgent in 2012, gets reasonably close to beating Mitt Romney, not like super close, but he finishes second in the primaries. voice-verified

Trump is so enamored with Santorum that he summons him to Trump Tower, talks about him, talks about his book with him, really thinks that Santorum is onto something. voice-verified

What is the difference between Donald Trump and Rick Santorum in their initial presidential campaigns? voice-verified

I mean, there are a lot of them, but one of them is that at many of his political rallies, Donald Trump is expressly condoning political violence. voice-verified

I mean, you just look at the super cuts on YouTube of this with him saying, knock that guy out, beat the crap out of them. voice-verified

You know, we got to rough them up. voice-verified

Don't worry, I'll pay for your legal bills. voice-verified

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