Jonathan Wilson

I mean, the argument was put to me when Jamie Vardy was there.

Does Jamie Vardy need a herb garden to make him play better?

And there is that element.

And that has been suggested as an issue at Tottenham Hotspur, but then they got to the 2019 Champions League final while still at Hotspur, while at Hotspur away.

So I don't know.

Look, there are many reasons, but cultural absolutely is an issue.

And Thomas Frank, I mean, it sounds like he's got the...

The boards vote for the Borussia Dortmund game, which is just as well because you've got press conference, you've got open training and then a press conference.

Today, looking forward to the Dortmund game.

And I can't imagine there are going to be any questions about the game.

But all about him and his future.

Look, he's a decent man and he's a good manager.

He showed that at Brentford.

But making that step, which Carrick has been able to do, because as you say, he understands the DNA of the club.

You've got to look the part of managers of certain clubs.

One of the reasons why Russell Martin...

struggled at Rangers he didn't look the part that might seem a really superficial thing but actually if you talk to Rangers fans and you talk to former Rangers players they'll say yeah you've got to wear a suit you've got to look the part it's about the DNA now that's a Rangers issue

Michael Carrick, when he was in the dugout, he exuded, even though he's not an arrogant individual, he exuded an authority and a, I want to be here.

And he wasn't wearing a club suit or whatever, but he just looked the part.

It's like Jose in his coat.