Jonna Spilbor

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1,932 appearances 9 recordings 1 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 4 Sep

Jonna Spilbor’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 9 in all, peaking in Sep 2026 with 4.

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What do you tell people when they say that to you?
I say that the there is no such thing as the presumption of innocence.
I know that we talk a good game, but in actuality, Mark, come on.
You know, when we're representing criminal defendants.
We often have to prove their innocence.
It's not called that.
We don't say it out loud, but that's essentially what needs to happen.
Even before trial, especially before trial, when you're negotiating a case with a prosecutor, who gets to decide whether or not there's going to be a deal in your case?
By the way, the prosecutor is the one who does that.
So, but...
I just want to tell you what I tell myself and what I tell others so I don't feel guilty, right?
Okay.
The presumption of innocence applies to the six or 12 jurors assembled in that jury box.
We want to make sure they can presume or believe the defendant is innocent before they hear the evidence.
It doesn't apply to the court of public opinion.
It doesn't apply to my office right now.
It doesn't apply to this podcast.
It doesn't apply to my house.
It applies solely to court.
So we can opine anytime we want that somebody is damn guilty, particularly when our own eyes are seeing a video that we don't think was manufactured by AI, and we can say he's likely guilty.
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