Jonny Adams

Do you know the outcome of the case? Did they all see you get laughed out of court?

Do you know the outcome of the case? Did they all see you get laughed out of court?

So where did you go to find the image? That's the question.

So where did you go to find the image? That's the question.

Not on that point. I was curious about that last point. And I suppose it's a really hot topic for anyone involved in a growth role, whether that's, you know, marketing, sales, consultancy, whatever that may be, customer success. When you think about that job piece, not naming names, if we think about a CEO, the last sort of 10 years in software has surfaced has been growth at all costs.

Not on that point. I was curious about that last point. And I suppose it's a really hot topic for anyone involved in a growth role, whether that's, you know, marketing, sales, consultancy, whatever that may be, customer success. When you think about that job piece, not naming names, if we think about a CEO, the last sort of 10 years in software has surfaced has been growth at all costs.

So they would pretty much do anything to get to where they need to get to, especially their VC bags. It's like quite aggressive. Right. Do you think that a CEO and those types of C-suite actually will continue to think about growth at all costs at the absence of job losses at maybe sort of, may I say, middle to lower tier?

So they would pretty much do anything to get to where they need to get to, especially their VC bags. It's like quite aggressive. Right. Do you think that a CEO and those types of C-suite actually will continue to think about growth at all costs at the absence of job losses at maybe sort of, may I say, middle to lower tier?

Or do you think that actually there's going to be some of that ethical sort of input where actually, you know, common guys that you've got to not worry too much about growth and actually go think about the society and the people within your function? Do you have a theme or a trend that people are talking about? Or maybe it's a bit too early. I'm not too sure.

Or do you think that actually there's going to be some of that ethical sort of input where actually, you know, common guys that you've got to not worry too much about growth and actually go think about the society and the people within your function? Do you have a theme or a trend that people are talking about? Or maybe it's a bit too early. I'm not too sure.

Yes, of course.

Yes, of course.

Is it a language pattern that creates fear in the current sort of market of job employment where, you know, job cuts or is it, you know, are people being redeployed well enough? You know, it has to come in one hand that I get the efficiency model because I'm trying to sit there if I was a CEO and think, well, I've got the pressure of the board, I've got the pressure of investors. Do you know what?

Is it a language pattern that creates fear in the current sort of market of job employment where, you know, job cuts or is it, you know, are people being redeployed well enough? You know, it has to come in one hand that I get the efficiency model because I'm trying to sit there if I was a CEO and think, well, I've got the pressure of the board, I've got the pressure of investors. Do you know what?

I'm five years away from exiting and going to retire. Yeah. Would I go for it? You know, would I would I cut headcount and use some type of really because that's what everyone's telling me is that AI is going to solve my efficiency problems. I don't know. I've been noodling on that one. And I guess that I don't know which way people would turn.

I'm five years away from exiting and going to retire. Yeah. Would I go for it? You know, would I would I cut headcount and use some type of really because that's what everyone's telling me is that AI is going to solve my efficiency problems. I don't know. I've been noodling on that one. And I guess that I don't know which way people would turn.

Does that need an AI model to just work?

Does that need an AI model to just work?

I'm really curious. And we've talked about AI, I say that as a general term, not today, but in every space that I can even think of. And what's beyond AI? And I know you think about that and talk about that a lot. But, you know, even past all of this, what's the next thing? Do you have an indication or a hypothesis around that? Is that a fair question to ask?

I'm really curious. And we've talked about AI, I say that as a general term, not today, but in every space that I can even think of. And what's beyond AI? And I know you think about that and talk about that a lot. But, you know, even past all of this, what's the next thing? Do you have an indication or a hypothesis around that? Is that a fair question to ask?