Jonty Claypole

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11,327 appearances 34 recordings 3 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 3d ago

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Secret Life of Books · Greek Lessons by Han Kang · 11 Aug 2026 podcast

At the start of the film, the actress is sent by her doctor to a cottage with a nurse, and we find the same intimate relationship between these two women as we do in the last part of Greek lessons between the woman and the teacher. voice-verified

The famous scene in the film is when these two women, the nurse and the actress, during the hour of the wolf, as voice-verified

as as Bergman likes to call it and called the film he he was about to make. voice-verified

So Bergman loves the kind of 3 a.m. voice-verified

moments, those moments where human beings are still up and all the rules of society and convention drop away and strange things happen. voice-verified

And during the hour of the wolf in Persona, the actress and the nurse merge into one. voice-verified

They become the same person. voice-verified

And that's exactly what happens at the end of Greek lessons. voice-verified

Hung Kung talks about this. voice-verified

Being the hour of dogs and wolves talks about this term. voice-verified

And the woman loses the sense of individuality. voice-verified

She can't work out who's speaking anymore, if it's if it's her thoughts or if it's the man's thoughts, they merge it into one. voice-verified

So I think persona is a really important influence on this book. voice-verified

And actually, by going to persona, you realize as well the way that. voice-verified

Hung Kang is using this story to respond to her own distress about geopolitical violence and national violence in this story, which seems otherwise very particular to the characters and very intimate and almost in sort of limited range. voice-verified

But actually, all of this wider geopolitical horror and despair is going on behind it. voice-verified

So, Sophie, we've just been talking about Bergman's persona, but let's talk about two of the big literary influences in this book and the writers she's referring to, because I think it's really important to get an understanding of both Borges and Plato if you're gonna have a chance of getting to the bottom of what Hong Kong is doing in this story. voice-verified

Beautiful. voice-verified

So the other big the other big literary character who's referred to continually in through this book is Plato. voice-verified

Bear with me, listeners, I'm gonna make this as accessible and entertaining as possible. voice-verified

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