Jordan Crowder

But I was really blown away by how much comfort I was finding in these ancient texts that I was reading.

And I thought that was very interesting.

And now I think we're at this point where we can kind of combine and merge the ancient philosophies with our modern understanding of consciousness and things like that.

I mean, there's a lot of people that I really enjoy.

Like Tom Campbell, I like his take on things.

He's a little too much in the, this is all virtual and none of this is real.

Like I really do like to feel that there is an objective real world.

And I've even been able to go through and trace back how we went from quantum to atomic and

And I understand that balance there.

Obviously, when you drill down the subatomic level, everything is vortices of energy and there is no solidity to anything.

I get that.

But I love Tom Campbell and his way of thinking about things.

You know, I'm not going to lie.

Robert Monroe, the reason I fell in love with this stuff was because his philosophy and the way he looked at things through this kind of engineering mindset.

And he became this like almost like spiritual master, but he had this very analytical mindset.

left brain guided, you know, mechanistic way of looking at things.

I really resonated with the way he talked about things and the way that he approached, um, everything he did.

So even today, I mean, you know, there's a bunch of people out there that I really like their outlook on things, but they, they all seem to kind of have a narrow point of view, not narrow.

And it's just, they're, they're specialists.

Like they, they specialize in one category.