Jordan Harbinger

It's more like unseen male breathing.

So, yeah, the familiar fear that without rules, women would spiral into moral chaos.

Meanwhile, yeah, men were definitely using the phone to call women and then just go like, what are you wearing?

Right.

That was one I got a few times.

And I was like, mom, it's for you.

You got mom.

I think it's for you.

Yeah.

Yeah, I guess he, well, he had a point.

Have you ever heard, of course you have, a rotary phone ring?

You could hear that thing, and I guess this is the point, if it was upstairs or downstairs, you could hear it through the whole house.

And you'd hear your neighbor's ringer if the window's open, you'd think it was your own, because they all sounded the same.

They were loud.

Wow.

Yeah, I had no idea people's fears about the telephone would be echoed so closely by the smartphone.

But here we are.

Wow, okay.

I think I've heard this, but it's funny that people complained in printed text that printed text would weaken the mind.

I remember, was it like, one of these ancient Greeks, and maybe we'll talk about it in a minute, but he was kind of like, oh, reading is so bad for you because you don't have to memorize everything.