Jordan Klepper

deal with that?

How can we react to that?

So this is how the film came about.

I mean, that is so fascinating.

Essentially, you're articulating a resurrection of a loss of values, or a resurrection of the values of dictatorship, and then having to articulate that through art.

What do you connect that to?

I think there's such a...

Such a desire here.

People feel like we're living under these, we see these fascistic police state images on the news.

And there's a lot of conversation around, like, how do we just get past this?

Philly, you're talking about getting past this, but not actually getting past this, seeing this resurgence there.

Like, what did you want to articulate in having lived through that?

I think that preservation of memory is a very important thing.

You know, back in 79, we had this law called the Amnesty Law that basically forgave all the torturers and killers and people that did despicable things to civilians.

And I think that there was a very...

that was a very bad thing for our collective memory, or our lack of memory, because, you know, there are things that cannot be forgotten.

There are things that cannot be forgiven.

And I think that Brazil, I have to say, is finally getting even with that memory problem when we finally sent people that attempted against democracy in Brazil to jail for the first time.

So Bolsonaro himself is now in jail.

And I think that this... Thank you.