Jordan Klepper

And I think that this is, I hope that this is going to be a new phase for young Brazilians.

Bolsonaro would never have existed politically if it wasn't because of that law that made people forget how bad a dictatorship

Yes.

I mean, the movie reckons with that idea of memory as well.

There's a narrative device that transports us to the future to sort of see people grappling with the stories of the past.

And it's very tenuous.

You see how easily the stories of the past can be lost if it's not for the vigilant in the present.

Yeah, yeah.

It's about generational trauma, because many people had to live with that.

You know, like, because, you know, the dictatorship, people would just disappear.

And you couldn't go, like, you couldn't call the police.

hire a lawyer.

It's just that.

You have to deal with that.

So one of the characters of the film, in the end of the film, he receives from a woman from the future, a Brazilian from the future, a piece of memory in a form of a pen drive.

And that man can't deal with that information because the trauma is too big.

So again, I hope that from now on, we'll be able to deal with our memory and with our past.

I'm curious about your experience.

Before this film, you also directed a film that was very unpopular with the Bolsonaro administration.

Bolsonaro himself.