Jordan Klepper

That's the elite that's against the people.

But they were very effective with that kind of propaganda.

So to see nowadays Brazilians rooting for a cultural product, a film, their artists, it's actually really beautiful because Brazil

is a very unique country culturally.

It's this gigantic country in South America that speaks Portuguese with people from all over the world.

It's a very diverse and beautiful country.

So I feel, again, that we are finally getting back on track.

Well, I mean, it's a remarkably entertaining film.

It feels like watching a great 70s film with, like, such thoughtful pacing.

Yes.

But also a human story, that you're watching somebody, just a moral person trying to stay good.

Yeah.

I guess I'm curious, this plays in Brazil, and you've gotten feedback there.

And now, especially with the Golden Globe wins, like, what are you hoping an American audience who's seen this for the first time, living through the time that we are living in, what are you hoping that they resonate with, with a movie like this?

I did this film called Civil War a couple of years ago, which is a film about the aftermath of a polarized situation that could, in that case, lead to a civil war.

But polarization, I think it's the biggest thing that can lead to social conflicts nowadays.

And it's a big threat to democracy.

And I remember that back then I was saying that

Brazilians were really fasting because what happened in Brazil, like an election denier empowered their people to go to the institutions and break things down and invade the institutions.

It was exactly the same thing that happened here, happened in Brazil.