Jordan Klepper

And that man can't deal with that information because the trauma is too big.

So again, I hope that from now on, we'll be able to deal with our memory and with our past.

I'm curious about your experience.

Before this film, you also directed a film that was very unpopular with the Bolsonaro administration.

Bolsonaro himself.

That's this one, too.

Yes.

So you want to make something a little more mainstream?

No?

No?

But the film, but it's interesting because, of course, the country is totally polarized, as, you know, the US and, I guess, the entire world.

But the film also became an unexpected blockbuster in Brazil.

Because many people, you know, engaged with the film and went to see the film and were rooting for us during this awards season, which is very beautiful.

The engagement that Brazilians are having with our film is very beautiful.

Because these fascist governments, as you know well, first thing that they do is they attack.

journalists, university, and artists.

And they were very effective in transforming artists in Brazil into the enemies of the people.

Like, there's this intellectual elite in Brazil that is against the people.

Which is insane, because there is another elite

that they work for.