Jordan

And they were like, this is our business.

Like,

you're aware of this like yeah you know they we're talking about years old stuff but yeah no yeah but like that's really what happened is he would try to help out with things but then he would try to change it or do it his way or give us feedback that we didn't necessarily need and I think it all came from a good place of like him wanting to help but he has a way of it coming across as controlling and harsh at times so my family truly was like we don't want him involved like this is our thing so it just kind of got to that point where I had to say like sorry it has to be separate

Also, to be honest, we already work together with the show.

I don't know if I could handle like working together in my business and what that would do to our relationship.

I just think maybe it is good to keep it.

I told them what happened is that during those six months that we were hiding it, you had mentioned if this ever comes out.

Yes.

But then when I got blindsided, I remembered that.

I was like, that's what he's going to want me to say.

No, definitely.

I definitely wasn't using it as an excuse.

I remembered you saying that and I was like, I think this is what he'll want me to say.

No.

Because if that was the case, I would go with the narrative now.

I want people to know the truth.

Do you think it felt like less emasculating?

Do you feel that from him?

Yeah, I do.

I was going to say, I think that the scariest thing about what's happening now is we've been making progress, but this is going to reopen everything.