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And this one interview I did with a Vietnam vet, he started tearing up, talking about, you know, all the BS politicians he's, you know, been... flooded with his whole life. And Bernie was the first person that really was telling the truth. And it was kind of like, that's where it hit me. Like, this was not like a produced scripted interview on CNN.

And this one interview I did with a Vietnam vet, he started tearing up, talking about, you know, all the BS politicians he's, you know, been... flooded with his whole life. And Bernie was the first person that really was telling the truth. And it was kind of like, that's where it hit me. Like, this was not like a produced scripted interview on CNN.

This was like real man on the street, the kind of stuff that you don't really see often. And this guy was cussing, which it was fine. And that's what I realized, like, this is the kind of reporting I want to do, talking to people, whether it's politics, social justice, exploitation. And that's where it started, the opportunity I got

This was like real man on the street, the kind of stuff that you don't really see often. And this guy was cussing, which it was fine. And that's what I realized, like, this is the kind of reporting I want to do, talking to people, whether it's politics, social justice, exploitation. And that's where it started, the opportunity I got

This was like real man on the street, the kind of stuff that you don't really see often. And this guy was cussing, which it was fine. And that's what I realized, like, this is the kind of reporting I want to do, talking to people, whether it's politics, social justice, exploitation. And that's where it started, the opportunity I got

Yeah. And I think it also it just depends on who you are. You know, I don't. I think you're a bad person if your idea of fulfillment is winning a Pulitzer and getting invited to, you know, fancy book parties and, you know, being a D.C. journalist, you know, creature and getting invited on to the Sunday shows. I mean, it doesn't make you a bad person, but to me, that's. not the most fulfilling.

Yeah. And I think it also it just depends on who you are. You know, I don't. I think you're a bad person if your idea of fulfillment is winning a Pulitzer and getting invited to, you know, fancy book parties and, you know, being a D.C. journalist, you know, creature and getting invited on to the Sunday shows. I mean, it doesn't make you a bad person, but to me, that's. not the most fulfilling.

Yeah. And I think it also it just depends on who you are. You know, I don't. I think you're a bad person if your idea of fulfillment is winning a Pulitzer and getting invited to, you know, fancy book parties and, you know, being a D.C. journalist, you know, creature and getting invited on to the Sunday shows. I mean, it doesn't make you a bad person, but to me, that's. not the most fulfilling.

To me, I'd rather have not win the awards or not get that mainstream credibility, but have communities that actually depend on me, have communities that appreciate what I'm doing. And if I'm lucky, actually try to deliver whatever justice I can through the reporting I'm doing.

To me, I'd rather have not win the awards or not get that mainstream credibility, but have communities that actually depend on me, have communities that appreciate what I'm doing. And if I'm lucky, actually try to deliver whatever justice I can through the reporting I'm doing.

To me, I'd rather have not win the awards or not get that mainstream credibility, but have communities that actually depend on me, have communities that appreciate what I'm doing. And if I'm lucky, actually try to deliver whatever justice I can through the reporting I'm doing.

To me, that's more rewarding because there's no better feeling than if you're on the ground somewhere and people are just grateful just by the act of talking to them, by the act of getting their story out. To me, that's better than any public recognition you could get or...

To me, that's more rewarding because there's no better feeling than if you're on the ground somewhere and people are just grateful just by the act of talking to them, by the act of getting their story out. To me, that's better than any public recognition you could get or...

To me, that's more rewarding because there's no better feeling than if you're on the ground somewhere and people are just grateful just by the act of talking to them, by the act of getting their story out. To me, that's better than any public recognition you could get or...

You know, I would love to have the following of Joe Rogan, but what does it matter if it's not for something greater, if that makes sense? Totally agree.

You know, I would love to have the following of Joe Rogan, but what does it matter if it's not for something greater, if that makes sense? Totally agree.

You know, I would love to have the following of Joe Rogan, but what does it matter if it's not for something greater, if that makes sense? Totally agree.

Yeah, so I was at the Young Turks for two years. I don't think I'd be where I am now without that platform. So I definitely appreciate it. I was thinking about kind of going out on my own anyway.

Yeah, so I was at the Young Turks for two years. I don't think I'd be where I am now without that platform. So I definitely appreciate it. I was thinking about kind of going out on my own anyway.

Yeah, so I was at the Young Turks for two years. I don't think I'd be where I am now without that platform. So I definitely appreciate it. I was thinking about kind of going out on my own anyway.