Jordi Hays

There's also an interesting dynamic, particularly with Sequoia, where for a long time they had a reputation as being not particularly founder-friendly.

I mean, it is the genesis of Founders Fund is like the whole PayPal drama around Sequoia, right?

And it's like, what if there was a firm that was founder friendly?

And then that went off and happened.

And now, you know, obviously there's an entirely new team there.

It's a new strategy.

But I talk to founders who are like, yeah, they're not friendly.

And I'm getting in the gladiatorial arena with them.

Like it's a lion and I'm going to ride it.

And they're excited by that, and they're like, yeah, if I don't put up insane returns, they're going to fire me.

That's encouraging.

I need that.

I need to grind harder.

And so there's this weird thing where if you're measuring just on who will have your back unconditionally, there could be some really terrible venture capitalist out there who's not going to help you, but also never going to fire you.

And they're just kind of like, yeah, I gave you their dumb money.

But

So there's a lot more to the shape of like the thing, but that adds aura too.

Cause like you can be, I mean, we had Andrew Reid on the show and he said, Sequoia won't stab you in the back.

We'll stab you in the front.

That is high aura.