Joseph Cox
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591 appearances
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first heard Jun 2024
last heard 28 Jan
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It's bigger than we all thought, and it intersects with the surface world or the legitimate economy in way more ways than I think anybody anticipated. You've seen some of the material that they saw. Like, what have you seen? So, when the FBI started digging through the unknown messages, what they found was that the content was overwhelmingly criminal.
Usually, if a wiretap is like, oh, there's a little bit of crime, but maybe they're talking to their wife or husband or whatever. Here, it's like, no, they're just straight up talking about cocaine all the time. No code words, nothing like that. And I later obtained...
hundreds of thousands of Anom messages and spent months reading them, waking up, reading them, going to my day job, reading more in the evening to build up a picture of Microsoft and his associates and other criminals as well. And I think I felt the same sort of sensation that the FBI must have felt because it was insane. Just every single chat in there is about some sort of really serious crime.
We're going to kill this person. We're going to hunt down this one. We're going to torture this one. We're going to throw grenades through this window. It was genuinely overwhelming.
I read so many messages sent by and about Microsoft that I genuinely started to realize what this person was like. I'd be reading the chat messages, and I think to myself, oh, Microsoft's not going to like that. And then a couple of pages later, he's popping off, shouting at people, saying he's going to kill them. And I'm like, well, I know Microsoft at this point.
I think he's probably going to chill out now. He's got to have his system.
Four pages later, he's all chill and we're back to dealing amphetamine. And that is the sensation that some of these agents got, I've heard from. And, I mean, I talk to a lot of criminals. I see a lot of criminal behavior. But it was incredibly unusual to just have... sort of the callousness presented in front of me where they're literally ordering assassinations with, like, emojis.
And at one point, Microsoft asks, can I get a bulk discount if I have a hitman do three or four hits at once? And, like, that is something you would think would be in a movie, but it would be a little bit too on the nose. And it's like, this... This is real, and it really blew me away.
Smiley face, sunglasses, emojis, thumbs up, crying, laughing came up a lot. Whether like, ha ha ha ha ha, you know, we've done that. Or just strings after they'd actually successfully done an assassination. Like, they don't care. This is just part of their business, and they order an assassination with the casualness that, like, you would order, like, takeout food.
Yeah. Even though legally Anom wasn't a wiretap for various quirks in US law, they treated it ethically as such, which means that if you're listening to a wire and there's a clear threat to life against somebody, like, we're going to go kill this person at this time with this weapon, The FBI or other law enforcement typically acts and maybe they go and arrest the hitman if they know who that is.
Maybe they send a squad car to the approximate location and turn on their sirens and that will scare some people off. Or often it's the case they'll warn the victim and be like, we're not going to tell you how, but we know there is a tangible threat to your life and we recommend that you change up your routine or we can offer you protection. And that happened tons of times throughout Anom.
In one case, a murder was planned on the FBI's app from sourcing the weapon, to tracking the target, to luring the target to a specific place, to then gloating about the murder. And it was successful. The entire thing was planned on Anom. And the issue was that the FBI did not provide those messages to the Swedish authorities in time.
Now, on the flip side, the FBI says it intervened in something like 150 threats to life. But hey, at least one person died as well. And I don't know, are we okay with that trade-off? Are we okay with that sort of balancing act there?
You have to decide when the trap closes shut.
Yeah, Microsoft was designated a high-value target by the Swedish authorities. And they already knew about Microsoft, like he'd been arrested a little bit before, but they had no idea about his amphetamine lab in the Swedish countryside. They had no idea about some of these other drug operations until they got the insight from Anom.
And the Swedish authorities I spoke to, they said they deliberately wanted to sort of put the pressure on him. They wanted to squeeze him a little bit. So when they shut down his amphetamine lab, they didn't actually arrest everybody just then, even though they could have done. They wanted to lay in wait and let's see what these people do. Like, maybe they'll do more incriminating stuff.
Maybe they'll make some mistakes. We also want Microsoft to have to owe people money. Like this will fuck with him, basically. And that played out beautifully for the authorities.
Yeah, he's going to get more and more desperate. He's going to look for other ways to make money. He's going to bring in more criminals to Anom because, again, he wants to do more trafficking operations, but he needs more people to come on the network so he can make more money. And it's like this endless cycle where if we just keep pushing him, he will accelerate and just keep going as well.
I hate it. I read this and I'm like, oh my God, like all the things going wrong in my life. Is there something going on behind the scenes now? And it's like fueling my paranoia. It's not pleasant. I have to forget. No, no. This was a very specific incident where this happened. Don't read into it too much.
So in the lead up to the press conference, what law enforcement do is they follow the sun, which means that they start with their wave of arrests in Australia, then it will move over to Europe until eventually they do the press conference in San Diego announcing the operation. But during that time, of course, with the Australian arrests, some people in Europe realized, hey, something's going on.
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