Joseph May

So they're made with waxed cotton, which isn't exactly waterproof, but it's water-resistant.

And so it'll protect your stuff to a point.

Obviously, if you're in Asia or in Seattle, and you're in one of those massive monsoon rainstorms, you want to get a rain cover.

And we sell those, or

We sold them in our Kickstarter.

We'll probably put them up on our website again at some point.

But I mean, it's more, I mean, you're looking more for the look.

Like anytime you're buying a nicer looking bag.

And I mean, the wax cotton will age with you.

It'll age just like leather work.

It starts to kind of take on the marks and really just starts to look good.

I mean, this bag I showed you right here.

this is over a year old and I've kind of, I've really put hammered this bag and it looks brand new.

It doesn't look beat up.

So I mean, you can do the leather has a couple of marks on the bottom, but yeah.

So, I mean, it really made the last like 10 years.

So right now, there are two of us, like two and a half, because I work with a couple different contractors outside.

We use a fulfillment house.

We don't ship our own stuff, just to keep things simple.

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