Joseph Michael

Married with a 10-year-old daughter and a 1-year-old boy.

So our life is, yeah, it's pretty busy.

So traffic is basically done from JV partners.

So when I launched Learn Scrivener Fast, I was still early in this whole online marketing game.

I didn't even know how to collect email addresses yet.

I didn't have an email list to launch to.

And so what I did, it was a lot of grunt work in the beginning, but I realized really early on that partnering with people who had the audience that I already needed or that would love my product was the quickest and fastest way to success.

And so early on, I networked and hustled to connect with those people who were, you know, influential and had writer audiences.

And I did a ton of... Tell me an example.

Tell me your first JV deal.

Who was it?

How'd you do it?

So Jeff Goins of Goinswriter.com.

He has a very great blog and he's got a lot of writer folks, right?

Who are striving to be full-time writers.

We did a webinar together.

We had, you know, like 30% conversion rates on, you know, the sales.

It was like, wow, that was really good.

I wonder if we could duplicate that again.

And so I kept going out and go ahead.