Joseph Scott Morgan

Because, you know, you're talking about premeditation, right?

I'm just feeding right back into what you're saying.

Had he seen, you talked about true crime, had he seen enough to know, okay, I probably ought not take the phone with me so that it puts me immediately outside the home.

But yeah, if there is a stalker element into this, he's going to know this like the back of his hand, Nancy.

He's going to know maybe all the nuances of that home.

He'll certainly know the location, points of entry.

He's going to know about the surrounding windows, low windows.

How do I get into a particular area in the house?

How many people are there?

And then you can drive down the road without your phone.

I think that we're under the impression nowadays that we have to have it with us, that we have to be tethered to it.

And that ain't the case.

So I find this fascinating, this aspect.

I hadn't thought about it until you'd mentioned it.

It is fascinating that he might leave this alone or leave it back at the sleep room there, you know, where most doctors take call from.

If you're on call, you have a room that's set aside for you in the hospital and you'll sleep there.

But, you know, the damning part to this, Nancy, is that as a vascular surgeon, let that sink in.

That's a critical job.

If you are absent your phone, you can wind up putting patients at risk, Nancy.

Yeah, an alleyway is very specific to the geography of a location.