Josh Holmes

They brought him.

They brought him, right?

And so if you see all of this over the last few years where he's just a part of every picture, like they were at a Spinal Tap 2 party.

uh, September premiere that he was at.

Now, did he have anything to do with it?

No, but he's a part of the family.

They were trying, they were trying to will their way through it.

I think to your point, Megan, maybe he's too far gone, obviously at this point, but it is, it's, it's about the lifestyle and it's about, I, I can't blame them, but, but this is, but it's not, it's not about blame.

Yeah, and a series of choices, some which may be very difficult from a career perspective, but choices and understanding that the most precious commodity you have in your family are your kids.

And the rest of it doesn't matter.

If it all ended tomorrow, that's the only thing that you focus on.

And I think moms and dads, healthy moms and dads understand that innately, but I think as a culture, we need to embrace that a lot more.

It is.

That's heartbreaking.

Yeah.

That's tough.

Yeah, it's tough because as a parent, well, as a parent, you know, everybody runs into this at some point with a child where you want to will things to be true, right?

That you think you can command things to happen and you can't.

And the most insecure you'll feel, the most vulnerable you'll feel as a parent is knowing there are some things that are outside of your

Your control.