Josh McGrath

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Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast · [State of Post-Training] From GPT-4.1 to 5.1: RLVR, Agent & Token Efficiency — Josh McGrath, OpenAI · 31 Dec 2025 podcast

So like I personally I studied math and then I was very, very lucky to have some like great mentors after school that like taught me to be a a good software engineer.

But it seems like if we're gonna be in this place for a while, and I think I think we will be, we should probably be

Producing more students that are great at doing both you know distributed systems and like a lot of core engineering as well as the statistics and other like things that are required to be a good machine learning researcher.

If we were to throw

I think one thing that's slightly simpler about some of the ML research, like or you know, ML research is also distributed systems, to be clear.

But like some of the things that I would say like get traditionally called ML research are things that you can treat a bit more of as a black box, whereas like

You know, the the environment to train on, you know, building these these different systems is actually just like a complicated engineering problem.

And so theoretically that I would say that they're like probably roughly equal.

Um, but I think the there's some there's some amount of effort I feel like to making the the environments for

I yeah.

I I guess they both would, but yeah.

That's that would be my guess.

But I I don't have my high confidence in it.

Well, uh okay, for sure, everyone on the shopping team that I was just working with, so like Andrew Hoyell, uh Manuka Strada, John Hallman, all all all great people.

Yeah, Issa Fulford, obviously the the manager for it.

Then she was the original deep deep

Yeah, yeah.

And so definitely that part of the team.

But I mean everyone everyone is so great.

Like I think it's hard to to give out a list.

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