Josh Miller

And so I think we have the moment in history, which we should not take for granted. We have the Plato, we have the lessons from the past, and now we just got to dream a bit and come together in some way. And maybe this is the part of me that makes decisions through feelings and this is naive and I will, but I truly, truly think something good is going to come out of this.

And so I think we have the moment in history, which we should not take for granted. We have the Plato, we have the lessons from the past, and now we just got to dream a bit and come together in some way. And maybe this is the part of me that makes decisions through feelings and this is naive and I will, but I truly, truly think something good is going to come out of this.

But I think we're going to mess some things up. Everyone's going to mess some things up and we just got to, we got to be open about it and talk about it. And I think there is this generation of entrepreneur, both in the media space and

But I think we're going to mess some things up. Everyone's going to mess some things up and we just got to, we got to be open about it and talk about it. And I think there is this generation of entrepreneur, both in the media space and

But I think we're going to mess some things up. Everyone's going to mess some things up and we just got to, we got to be open about it and talk about it. And I think there is this generation of entrepreneur, both in the media space and

and in the product space or the technology space that has seen, again, the models that came before it and what went wrong there and is encouraged to come on a podcast like this, even if it's not always going to be effortless.

and in the product space or the technology space that has seen, again, the models that came before it and what went wrong there and is encouraged to come on a podcast like this, even if it's not always going to be effortless.

and in the product space or the technology space that has seen, again, the models that came before it and what went wrong there and is encouraged to come on a podcast like this, even if it's not always going to be effortless.

Oh, I think very low. I think very low. I will need media training from you after this. As someone that is full of ideas and prototypes and we have an experimental culture, there's nothing I want to do more than blurt out all of these ideas for what might turn it back. I think I need to learn my lesson of the folks that came before me and say, I don't know the answer yet.

Oh, I think very low. I think very low. I will need media training from you after this. As someone that is full of ideas and prototypes and we have an experimental culture, there's nothing I want to do more than blurt out all of these ideas for what might turn it back. I think I need to learn my lesson of the folks that came before me and say, I don't know the answer yet.

Oh, I think very low. I think very low. I will need media training from you after this. As someone that is full of ideas and prototypes and we have an experimental culture, there's nothing I want to do more than blurt out all of these ideas for what might turn it back. I think I need to learn my lesson of the folks that came before me and say, I don't know the answer yet.

It is hard to imagine looking at the state of things today, as we've spoken about. But I think there is some innovation on the product side, both from the media side and the technology side, that can turn those tides. Because I think, again, from the Patreon perspective, everyone is burned. Everyone is overwhelmed. They are burnt out. It is just not sustainable.

It is hard to imagine looking at the state of things today, as we've spoken about. But I think there is some innovation on the product side, both from the media side and the technology side, that can turn those tides. Because I think, again, from the Patreon perspective, everyone is burned. Everyone is overwhelmed. They are burnt out. It is just not sustainable.

It is hard to imagine looking at the state of things today, as we've spoken about. But I think there is some innovation on the product side, both from the media side and the technology side, that can turn those tides. Because I think, again, from the Patreon perspective, everyone is burned. Everyone is overwhelmed. They are burnt out. It is just not sustainable.

And I think out of that will come a generative creativity that can bring it back. And I think the truth of these other historical platforms is They have these taxes, and they have these anti-competitive behaviors. They have these things that I think will work against them. And the web has a lot going for it. So if it's OK, can I ask you one question? Sure.

And I think out of that will come a generative creativity that can bring it back. And I think the truth of these other historical platforms is They have these taxes, and they have these anti-competitive behaviors. They have these things that I think will work against them. And the web has a lot going for it. So if it's OK, can I ask you one question? Sure.

And I think out of that will come a generative creativity that can bring it back. And I think the truth of these other historical platforms is They have these taxes, and they have these anti-competitive behaviors. They have these things that I think will work against them. And the web has a lot going for it. So if it's OK, can I ask you one question? Sure.

A birdie told me that of your Verge cast hosts, David Pierce uses ARK. Alex Granz uses ARK. Nilay Patel does not use ARK. Why don't you use Arc, and what can we do better?

A birdie told me that of your Verge cast hosts, David Pierce uses ARK. Alex Granz uses ARK. Nilay Patel does not use ARK. Why don't you use Arc, and what can we do better?

A birdie told me that of your Verge cast hosts, David Pierce uses ARK. Alex Granz uses ARK. Nilay Patel does not use ARK. Why don't you use Arc, and what can we do better?