Josh Owens

And the producer said, let me call you right back.

And so he called us back and he said, yeah, Jones loves the idea.

That's what you guys need to do.

And I remember sitting there thinking, what idea?

What are you talking about?

He was like, your idea.

You guys are going to get the reporter to dress up as ISIS and you're going to film him walking across the border.

And it was another one of those moments where like your head goes fuzzy and you think, well, what?

That's not what?

But then a day later or two days later, we got a box in the mail at our hotel and it had

The whole get-up, the news producer had even stenciled an ISIS flag.

He sent a sword.

He went to a prop shop in Austin and sent a severed head.

And he wanted us to be in Mexico, simulate severing a head, the reporter dressed as ISIS, and walk across.

And, I mean, even repeating this is –

the most ridiculous thing.

But in Jones's world, that's what was asked and every day was ridiculous and that ridiculous became normalcy.

Yes, that was the concept.

But it turned out that the border wasn't as porous as we were claiming it to be.

Every time we went anywhere near the line, there were Border Patrol agents everywhere.