Josh Owens

He's kind of a black mark on your resume.

He would say this to us on a regular basis.

You cannot exist in the world outside of here because you are connected to me.

And in that sense, yeah, I mean, I don't know another way to describe it but cult-like.

Nothing.

Right.

That's not what the website said.

So we went to this place because of the Judicial Watch report.

We went to El Paso.

And when we got there, I was there with a reporter.

When we got there, there was nothing to report on.

And so we started getting calls from a news producer saying, Jones is expecting something.

What are you doing?

What are you guys doing?

And –

I remember being so perplexed and angry.

Like, what do you expect us to do?

We can't just summon something out of thin air.

That I said, well, I mean, I guess we'll just make the reporter I'm with, I guess we'll just dress him up as an ISIS jihadian, have him walk across the border to show that they could get in.

And it was just a moment of anger, a moment of feeling perplexed.