Josh Reynolds

Well...

We can probably, let's go PNG first, right?

So the tie-in here would be Nathan Cleary ends up in Papua New Guinea.

Yep.

And Ivan Cleary maybe ends up there in 2028 as in a head of football role potentially.

Potentially.

And our great mate Michael Chamis spends the next two years building the roster and then moves on to a different role in maybe a club in Sydney.

So he does two years there, builds everything up, then moves back in.

Didn't Ivan say he's staying on at Penrith after 2028 as well?

He has said that, yeah.

But-

You know, that could change.

I think that could change.

But he did.

He said like- He said, yeah, finer details being worked out, sort of a coaching director style role almost.

It was like culture, didn't he?

Yeah.

The final then, or maybe it's not the final conspiracy theory, but then another one is England.

And is Nathan going to go to England and maybe Ivan ends up there with him in England?

Especially, we were just talking, Rennie, before we got in there here, that if the NRL are still very serious about buying the Super League and investing in the Super League, like the biggest win that they could possibly have would be Nathan going over there and helping grow the game.