Josh van Cuylenburg

And how hard was that telling her that story?

Was it a difficult thing to do or by that you were sort of in a rhythm of talking?

So she was at cricket Australia then.

There's also character attacks as well, like questioning them as a person and were they being promiscuous or what were they wearing and all that kind of stuff.

I'm picturing that on a poster with Rana just, yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

When you...

Just going back to the moment when you told your dad, did you feel supported and did you feel believed by him in that moment?

You said that?

Sorry, you said amongst all that, all the stuff going wrong, one of the things was you're made redundant from Cricket Australia.

I'm guessing that was completely irrespective of what, you know, what had happened to you.

Okay, we'll keep going.

I'm very excited about it because I've seen the work that's gone into it and I know it's going to have the same impact in workplaces as it does in schools.

Awesome.

So what happened after that, after the hearing?

You go through all that and then soon after that, you find that it's going to be appealed?

So what, so with that buildup, that huge buildup of just waiting for the court case, then a month in the, in the very moment you get, you know, you find out the result, like what happens to you?

How are you?

What?

Or it's just like you watch it online?