Josh Van Kuelenberg

What we thought we would do today is the three of us have thought about an issue or something we're struggling with in our own lives.

We'd love to share that with you and just get your thoughts from a stoic point of view and how maybe Marcus and his mates would respond to the issues we had if we were able to take them to them.

I don't know, Josh, if you want to go first maybe.

I'm keen to move to your challenge in a minute, Ryan, but I just have a question for you around, I think I'm particularly interested in maybe Epictetus's, like what his thoughts would have been on empathy because born into slavery, I feel like empathy can be a double-edged sword.

It's something we talk a lot about in our school programs.

Empathy can often lead you to action that you mentioned before, but it can also be overwhelming and lead you to worry.

Stoics in general, but also Epictetus.

How would he talk about empathy?