Joshua Broome
Appearances
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I went there and got drugged. I thought it was my fault. I was filming in Atlanta. It was a disgusting shoot. People were urinating on each other, spitting on my face, in my mouth, stuff like that. I was just like, what have I become? I was like, I want to die. I didn't realize that that scene was for the most popular website in America at that time. When I heard
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
He spent two years just talking about Ben or digging into the fact that the devil, you're not interested, you're not interesting to the devil per se, but he's got legions of demons, right? That they know the wounds in your family history. They know the things in which you have a proclivity towards. He knows what kind of trap to set for you. He can't make you take the bait.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
They can make it seem enticing. And even more so, once you take it, he can make you believe that it's not a big deal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Mm-hmm. But yeah, man, back to that moment with Victor, we were doing that retooling prayer, and I was like, I was pretty dismissive of it. And then we did it. And then as soon as he started talking, it was like I was a kid, and I was in a room where... It took me to a moment that I had suppressed as a kid.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
This is how you got here, you know, to your son, to your daughter. And, you know, explain it in a way that makes sense. And then also we need to protect ourself from the world. The world is a dangerous place trying to come at us. So Bark is a really great piece of technology where, you know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I was seven and a half years old, and I heard my mom being hit by this guy that she was married to. And I... The dresser was pressed up against the door. And I was pressing with my forearm against the door. And I got it open just enough where I could see through it. And I saw him hitting her. And I was screaming at him. And I felt so weak and so useless because I couldn't open that door.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And then I cried until I fell asleep. And I woke up. And he was just like, what lie did the enemy tell you? I was like, that I'm not good enough. It was just like... And it was like, so how do you undo? How do you undo something like that? It's like, how do you replace a lie? Well, you have to replace it with a truth. Thomas Kempis talks about habit has to be replaced with habit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
A lie has to be replaced with truth. So I'm like, man, how do I fix this? How do I undo this? How do I, you know, what do I do with this? What do I do with this like new, like unearthed trauma? You know, I've already like been to counseling for two years. You know, I've already, it was like something I didn't deal with. I never even thought of it. I didn't even know it happened really.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And the first thing I could think of was again that dream. When I was praying, you know, that moment I was praying, I was like, man, the reason I don't believe that I'm enough, it came from another lie that my dad wasn't there for me because I'm not good enough. I'm not good enough to be his son. So I'm going to choose to forgive him in spite of of an outcome. And I did.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
you know bark.org is the website and you get to control everything that your children has access to if they're going to use any kind of smart technology and what i love about it is you get a report of everything that they see and everything that they're sent so if if you're allowing them to use text messages emails things like that you will get a notification if someone's
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I think the enemy... I thought in my head, man, God had orchestrated this incredible moment that I was gonna... When I caught him, there was gonna be fireworks shooting off, and then we were gonna grab some shotguns and go hunting or something. But it was just not the case.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I was talking with a buddy of mine recently, Matt Chandler, and he was telling me a story of him and his dad reconnecting later in life. And I was like, well, how did that happen? And he was like, man, just randomly one day, I just got this inkling to say, hey, Dad, I've got access to this cabin. I'm going out there for three days. Hunt, fish, do all the stuff you love to do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Why don't you come with me? It's all on me. It's all taken care of. Why don't you come hang out with me? And he did and, you know, ended up professing Jesus as Lord, ended up having a great relationship, even moved closer to him. And I was just like, my dad, like, has a, you know, My dad's office looks like this if it was deer and boar. I was like, he'll be all over that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Send out a text, look at it, show it to my wife, hit send, 30 seconds go by. I don't think it's going to work. There was so much in me that wanted to take 10 steps back. It's like, man, what do I have to do? But at the end of the day, it's like, man, I can't control his decisions. And I can't control his response to dictate how I perceive reality and live my life.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
All I can do is be the best father I can be and the best husband I can be and be the best Christ follower I can be and be the best leader in the organization that I'm part of.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. I mean, it sucked. You know, it sucked. Like, I thought for sure, like, that was it. But I think a better way to think about it, you know, as I'm sitting here, it's like maybe it was a seat, you know?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Three months ago. That's a lot of pain. Yeah. And it's wild. It's like, you know, I spend a lot of time talking about porn. But when I do men's events, I know 90% or more of the guys there have or are struggling with porn. The thing that I get to minister to people about is that. There's some kind of father wound. And there's levels of fatherlessness.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
There's fathers that they weren't there at all. There are fathers that divorce or death. It would be easy for me to become the father that's absent in that I'm there, but I'm trying to overcompensate so hard that I'm not present anymore. So, so many guys with a similar wound.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, there's bullying, there's any kind of conversation around self-harm, either by them or someone else, anything pornographic, any keywords. And then you can have a healthy conversation where instead of being accusatory of, hey, I know that I saw this, you know, you know that I saw this, so, you know, you know, fess up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
How do I keep the balance? I mean, for me, it's like, again, my wife is just the best. Where we were doing premarital counseling and... We were looking at the five love languages, and she was saying her top love language is quality time. And naturally, the way that we are naturally inclined to love people is the way in which we most...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
naturally receive love, which often is not the same as our spouse. And with Hope, she wanted quality time. Her family, it's like if they fell out of the Hallmark Channel. It's not real life. She talks to her mom and her sister multiple times a day. They're on like, her sister just had a baby. It's wild. It's nothing like I've ever seen. It's not uncomfortable, but it's so normal it's weird to me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But she was like, quality time. So when I hear quality time, I'm like, quality date, quality dinner, something really good. She's like, I want to sit on the end of a pier where the water is completely placid and just sit there, no phones, nothing, just unattached from everything, just me and you. The greatest gift that you can give me, the greatest present that you can give me is your presence.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And that's hard for somebody that doesn't think a lot of themselves. So it was almost like the way that she required me to love her well allowed me to heal. It was like, man, how could you see that in me? And there's just been so many times where she has just did things and said things that have been so healing to me. So with our kids, you know, she reminds me that, you know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
like Cannon especially, that's my dude, he likes presents and likes stuff. But at the end of the day, he wants me to sit on the ground and play tic-tac-toe with him. And it's like we overcomplicate simple things that distracts us from the most meaningful things.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You can say, hey, is there anything that, you know, was said to you or you saw today that you want to talk about with me? So I would say that's how we have to navigate that conversation, because what we don't say is not helpful, but it also says something. Because Romans 12, 2, either you're being conformed by the world or you're being transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So it's that. The way that she loves me well is she lovingly course-corrects me from time to time. Sometimes it's a bony elbow, and sometimes it's a kiss on the cheek. But she's never afraid to tell me the truth, and I appreciate that so much about her.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
It is wild. I mean, we were sitting with a group of people, and someone asked her, well, in good faith, they were asking her, gosh, I just admire you so much. How do you not have animosity towards him? Slept with thousands of girls, did all this stuff. It's all over the internet. And how do you not have like something like in you that causes you to compare yourself?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, like how do you not have animosity and like, how do you not have that in you? And she was like, well, I knew him for five days before he gave his life to Christ. Um, so I'm not going to hold his past against him. Like, and, um, I don't believe that when you Google him, you will find the thing that's most true about him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
The thing that's most true about him is that he is a son of the King of Kings. So I'm gonna speak to him and think of him the way that God does, not the way that Satan does. Because Satan would like me to hold on to his past. But God says, that is my son whom I'm well pleased that's been forgiven and cleansed by his blood.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Like the prodigal son, like the prodigal son took one step toward his father. The father ran towards him and put a ring on his finger or sandals on his feet, a robe on his back and threw a party because he said, this is my son who's come home. And I think, man, it's like, if we could just understand who God is, he would seem not only more attractive, but irresistible.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, let's do it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Father, we thank you that we get to look at you and say, Abba, Father. We thank you for our time together. And Lord, we just pray that the conversation that we had, it is both convicting and comforting in that it doesn't matter what you've done. It doesn't matter what's happened to you. It doesn't matter how far you've gone. You cannot outrun or out sin what Jesus has done for you on the cross.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So the world is going to teach you, but the prince of the air, the devil, wants to teach you something that's drastically different than what God wants to teach you. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
and to the person that is wrestling with and struggling with pornography addiction, God, I pray that you lovingly correct them, that you do not condemn them for their sin, that if they are a follower of you, that they are someone that would say, hey, I call myself a follower of Jesus. Your word says that Romans 8, 1, that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. So I pray that
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
They don't feel condemned in shame, but they do feel corrected in their spirit and that this is not a good thing. This is not something that they should hide. This is something they need to tell someone that's close to them and that they pursue freedom and healing. And God, I just pray that to the person that doesn't know you,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
That we understand that we were created to live forever and where we spend forever is up to us. That you sent your son into this world to die the death that we deserved. He paid our debt on the cross. And God, I just pray that to the person that doesn't know you, that they, right now in this moment, that you draw them close to yourself and they say, hey, I'm a sinner that needs saving.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I don't know how to do it on my own. But Jesus, I pray that you come into my life, that I turn from my sin, that I turn to you and I give you my life and I trust you. And I pray that you fill them with the Holy Spirit so they can follow you with all their life for the rest of their life. We pray this all in Jesus' mighty name. Amen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, and just the reality that wherever you are today, you're not stuck. You know, you can change. It doesn't have to always be this way. That's the gospel that, you know, God loves us enough to meet us where we are, no matter what our situation is. But he also loves us enough to not leave us as we are.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
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Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So my kids, so Cannon is almost seven. So six, four, three, and one. So, I mean, for example, Cannon, last year when he was still six, there's this apologetics camp. that I always speak at and I teach sexual ethic. And he comes with me because I'm not saying anything that's inappropriate, I'm saying everything that's true and everything that I'm saying is biblically accurate.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So he's heard me, he sits up on stage and he's probably drawing Paw Patrol or something like that, but he's hearing me, he's listening. So I would say there's no line in the sand with kids. Just pay attention to them and just know your kids. I mean, how do you bring it up?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, just the fact that we've got four kids. Mommy's pregnant. Where is this baby coming from? Mommy's parts are different than ours. She's outmanned in our house significantly. But they're just asking questions. Why do I have something different than mom? What... Where do babies come from? Stuff like that. They're just kind of naturally inquisitive. So we just tell them the truth.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I think we don't over-explain ourselves. We just say it matter of fact, and it is what it is. And I think when you make it a bigger deal than it should be, it becomes a big deal. Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Well, another thing I was sharing with you around the whole incest thing regarding the niche in pornography and all the stuff that's happening with sexual assault. But in addition to that, image-based sexual exploitation, that's a new thing that's on the rise, especially with young men. But the importance of
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
like kids not watching porn is this, uh, there's a, there's a new scam that's on the rise. And I think, um, like so far this year, this has happened, I think around like 170,000 times it's been documented where, um, a kid was approached by a scammer and it, you know, they have a fictitious profile. It looks like a cute girl and they have an interaction with a guy and they say, um,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, they send them a fake naked picture and they said, you send me one back. And once they send one, got you. I want you to send me $500 or I've hacked your account. I'm going to send this photo to everyone at your school, all of your family. You got 24 hours. And I think around 150 of those kids committed suicide. Wow. Because as a teenage boy, you're like, my whole life is ruined.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And it's wild because around 90% of those cases are guys. But yeah, I mean, it's everywhere. That's why it's so important to have those conversations because... You don't send a naked photo to someone you don't know online unless you've been watching pornography.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
That's not a rational thought unless your mind has been corrupted and perverted in a way that maybe there's exceptions to this, but for the most part, that thinking comes from pornography.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
1,600%. And then porn consumption went up 400%. Wow. But what you would see is essentially they were using social media like a funnel in that I've met with many girls who used to be in OnlyFans or girls that worked on the marketing arm of OnlyFans and the way they would work.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, that's why we're living in a post-Christian United States. I mean, luckily, there's been some progress in the right direction. I saw Bible sales are up 22%. But for the most part, it's like the world is looking dark and bleak in some ways. But yeah, it's nuts, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Oh, nice. So I have a copy of my book. Um, copy of my book. And, and what I love to do to that book. So seven lies that will ruin your life. So really it's like, Hey, here's seven lies from culture that negatively impacted my life. And then, uh, here's seven truths from God's word. They kind of eradicated that lie and gave me a new foundation to stand on. And if, and if you, you know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Kind of like a progressive overloading workout plan. If you do 10 sets of two for 10 weeks, you will get stronger. In the same way, if you apply God's Word to your life, your life will change. But man, my life, just me being in this room, how? Got out of plan, but...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I would say my life has been made up of people inviting me into places that I don't have any business being into because they saw something in me and people that gave me time that they didn't have. And so this is my friend Jonathan Pakluta's new book. It says it's called Your Story Has a Villain. And he just did like a two or three year deep dive into spiritual warfare.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Grew up Catholic, kind of, you know, threw it by the wayside and kind of lived for the world and was very successful in the marketplace and then came to faith later in life. He's been part of some of those college revivals that you've been seeing, like baptizing thousands of people at college campuses and stuff. He was a part of that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, so he's one of the people that have been part of each event, him and Jenny Allen, along with Tanya. But yeah, so he's there preaching at every event and baptizing those kids. Very cool. But it's wild because he poured into this guy, Andrew. that poured into me and just kind of a neat discipleship circle. But I wanted to give you that. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because I love giving people, you know, literature that was, it's simple, it's clear. And, you know, it was a game changer for me. But he's somebody that, you know, Proverbs 27.6 talks about the wounds of a friend. And while, you know, sometimes you need to hear, you know, encouragement, but, you know, every once in a while you need a kick in the butt, you know, so.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, he's a good, good friend of mine. So he lives in Waco. So he pastors a church in Waco, so a little bit north of me in Dallas.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But phenomenal dude. Phenomenal dude. He's the biggest, tallest person that I know that does not play basketball.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Oh, yeah. And he's got, you have to ask him about Victor also.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. If I could take what you said and just back up a little bit, I think it's so important. So I grew up in South Carolina. Mom got pregnant with me when she was 15, had me at 16 in a super small town, like one gas station, one grocery store. And my dad was in that town, but never in my life. And my mom worked at this like
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
is once a girl became popular, once they became the top 10%, they would grab that girl, and they would say, hey, we're gonna represent you, we're gonna take great care of you, and they would bring them into a studio, and they would shoot all this stock footage, and they would say, hey, we're gonna 10X
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
flounder and fried chicken you know like restaurant and that it had like big glass windows and the windows i would sit there and i'd eat pretty much the same thing i'd pretty much eat the same thing um after school every day um this is what i was earlier but i would i would uh I would look out that window, and it was called – Rogers was called the convenience store, and Rogers is my grandfather.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And also – so my father was Roger Dell Jr., and he was Roger Dell Sr. And I saw the convenience store, and I saw the green Z71, like, pull up every once in a while. And so I saw – Was that your dad? It was my dad. And I saw him. So he was in close enough proximity for me to see him often, but never know him. And I was confronted with over and over again not being chosen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And just the way that attachment theory works neurologically, just how we develop an understanding of our emotions. It's like, man, I had this conflict and this chaos that I didn't understand, and the way that I made sense of it must be on me. There must be something wrong with me that he's not choosing me. So the best I can do is try to overcome. How young were you when you started seeing that?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean— Nine, ten. I mean, when I started, like, comprehending it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, my whole life, you know, up until graduated high school.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, there was probably, like, a few times where there was some fumbled, awkward attempt for us to have a conversation. There was never any malice involved, but... It was just strange. And in retrospect, at a place now, I can have an understanding of, man, what stays in the dark grows. And today is the easiest day to apologize for the thing that you did today.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Tomorrow is going to be even harder. And the next day and the next day and the next day, it's just going to compound over time, especially if there's shame involved. So I don't think he's like, man, I don't want to be this kid's dad. Maybe he didn't know what to say. And then so much time passed by, he just became crippled by it. But either way, it impacted me. And so then I go to college.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, the way that you're being monetized because we're going to shoot all this footage and then we're going to have, you know, 30 random, you know, guys in a basement in the Philippines or whatever. They're going to be chatting with the people. So they're going to have your password.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
study theater, I was in a fraternity, all the stuff. And I was sharing earlier with someone, one of your team members, I was sharing how my fraternity brother was the one who taught me how to tie a tie for the first time. Because our fraternity, we wore suit and tie on Tuesdays in a pin. And they were like, man, you can't be wearing a clip on. You'll get a smack down for that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I was like, man, I don't know how to tie a tie. And I remember my big brother teaching me how to tie this single Windsor tie. And it stuck with me forever. And just moments like that, it's this duality of I'll always be this kid that his daddy didn't want, but also, man, I need guys in my life to teach me something.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But kind of with that foundation, I believed at the core of my being is, man, if I earn enough, if I become enough, if I do enough, maybe... I'll feel as if I'm enough. And what I really wanted to hear was, son, I'm proud of you. And because I never heard that, I thought I could earn it from the world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I was just kind of one of those guys where Like everything I did, I found success in, like I was a good, I was a good ball player. I was good at acting. I had a lot of success in modeling. So kind of took that to Hollywood and I was, I had an agent and I was, I was having more success in modeling than acting, but. Everything was great.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I was living in Hollywood, had a great place to stay, had a good friend group, had a great agent, had opportunities.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. I think what you said is so important, that added layer. Because it's one thing to say, I'm proud of you, or you did a good job, or whatever that might be. But when you make it intentional and explain why... I feel like that would be even more meaningful and allow them to understand.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
you're not gonna have to be on OnlyFans anymore we're just gonna shoot all this stock content and it's like catfishing 2.0 where you know you pay per message per video per picture and then you got a guy sitting there pretending to be her and you're talking with these people and they're saying you know whatever in the comments and they're just plug-and-playing stuff from stock footage so once a month they just go and shoot all this footage now you got this you know this stuff to work with and you're just plugging and playing
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But yeah, I mean, kind of all that foundation led me to that moment of being in Hollywood and still acting like an idiot, like living like an absolute fool. Yeah. But kind of with all that factored in, I saw porn for the first time when I was 13. Never saw my mom in a healthy relationship. She was married for a very short period of time to someone who was very abusive, drug addict.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So outside of that, I never saw her in a healthy dynamic. My grandmother and grandfather, they didn't sleep in the same bed. My grandfather was like fishing every day, you know, like bad back or whatever. They didn't share a bed. I just had no like foundation of what is a healthy relationship? What is love? What is intimacy? What is, you know, never had a sex talk, saw porn when I was 13.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I thought, man, maybe if I, act out what else what i'm seeing in this magazine maybe i'll feel what i don't and you know that was kind of the start of me living a very promiscuous lifestyle in addition to that were you did you ever did you ever did your dad ever come into the picture still to this day
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Well, I mean, I have a really great story about forgiveness because at the end of the day, it's like, I'd say I love that I get to share. Thank you for asking that. And I love that I have the platform that I do today with the maturity that I do because when I used to talk about him, when I used to talk about him... I think I did it in a way that I was still a little bit angry with him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But I forgave him, and it was a big moment for me because, you know, when, like, forgiveness is easy. or easier when you know that reconciliation is on the other side. But when reconciliation doesn't meet your expectations, are you still willing to forgive? Meaning that, why would I forgive my dad if he's not going to become my dad and become a grandfather to my kids? Why would I forgive him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Why would I forgive the person that's not going to change? Why would I forgive the person that did wrong and is not going to be sorry for it or pay a price for that? I understand that God is a God of justice, and justice will be served in the end, but we often find ourselves saying, I want to play God in some way. I want to control the outcome.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I want to have some kind of autonomy, and I'll forgive if... Not in God's economy, not in God's kingdom. We forgive because we've been forgiven. And when you don't forgive, the person who pays the price is you. And for a long time, I was dealing with, man, it was on the other side of me conquering all these other things, like all these addictions and traumas and lust and all this stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But I was still wrestling with a little bit of anger issues. And it was because... Like in my heart of hearts, I would say, man, the messed up stuff that people say about me or say about me to my wife or say about my kids or whatever, there was a little part of me that said, dad, if you would have been there, I wouldn't have done those things and this wouldn't have been happening.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So it's kind of your fault. And I had to come to grips with that's not true. My trauma impacted the way that I saw the world, yes. But upon my own volition, I made those decisions. I have free will. So I had to take ownership of my mistakes and I had to let go of that with him. So I speak about him very differently. I speak about him with more empathy today than I have in the past.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
We don't have the relationship that I wish we did, but... Where'd you learn forgiveness from? Victor.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So now they can be talking to 30 people at once, but they're talking to no one at all. And then, you know, they're getting, you know, 75, 80% of that revenue. Damn. So you're not even... So to the person that is, you know, addicted to OnlyFans, if you're talking to a popular creator, I can almost guarantee you you're not talking to that person.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, it was super emotional. I mean, I was so, like, I'd made up my mind what I was going to say before it got too far. So as soon as I got him on the phone, I said it soon, and he apologized. What did he say? He didn't – I don't remember much about it. You know, it was more – it wasn't this, like, he's not an emotional guy. You know, it was like – it wasn't like I conjured up in my head.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
The pain in her voice when she said, why did you do that? Satan said to me, see, you're exactly who you thought you were.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I thought it was going to be this groundbreaking moment where, you know, I thought it was going to be like, you know, Rocky and Apollo, like, you know, dapping up on the beach. But, yeah, I mean – What did you say? I said, I'm sorry that I blamed you for every bad thing that I've ever done. And I've been holding a lot of resentment for you not being there. And I missed you a lot. I needed you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But the frustration that I have in my life and the unforgiveness that I have in my heart, I want to let it go. And he pretty much said, me too. You know, he said he was sorry for not being there. That was kind of it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I think, you know, my prayer is that my life and the way that I pursue him is healing for him in some way because I can't imagine what goes on in his head, in his heart internally.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. Yeah, so kind of all that leading up to me being in Hollywood. And I was at this bar, Saddle Ranch, so like Mechanical Bulls and all this stuff. And these three girls walk up to me. And they were headhunters for the porn industry. And they worked with a porn agent. And they asked me straight up, like, hey, would you be interested in being in a porn?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I was like, not really, you know, but maybe. Maybe. I think it's like when you don't have a good reason to say no, sometimes you say yes to something you should say no to. Some people ask me, is there a correlation between sex trafficking and the porn industry? And think about trafficking. generally involves force, fraud, and coercion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And people ask me, well, does some of that exist in the porn industry? It doesn't exist. It is completely dependent on it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
it's manipulation is, you know, at the cornerstone of the porn industry and that the girls were trained to use language where they're in a place where, you know, a lot of people are trying to make it and they're using, you know, meet with our agent and you'll do an interview and, you know, he'll help you with your career and all that stuff, you know. And it's almost like,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
When we say things or when we call things different than what they are, it creates this unrealistic barrier. And that, you know, we say, we don't want to say porn, we say adult film industry, yet porn is a word that is from the Greek New Testament, so pornea. And it's, you know, but we want to say adult film industry. But when we say that, trying not to be abrasive, what are we saying?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
We're insinuating that that's adult behavior, that's how adults act. You know? So it's just so interesting that they would use specific language of saying agent, this and that. And then they, essentially they were like, hey, if you want to do this, you know, you'll meet with our agent. And I was like, you know, I've been watching porn for a long time. I've been acting like an idiot forever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, it's pretty easy. Because I was in the porn industry for almost seven years. And when girls would do gang bangs, because guys that were professionally in the industry, for the most part, didn't do gang bangs. Because a director's not paying top professionals. Because you have a day rate. You have an individual rate that you make per day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
If I get paid for what I'm already doing, like maybe, you know, that would be cool.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
What do I sign? Yeah. And I, and I go and I meet with this guy and.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yes, three smoking hot girls. Did the approach. Yeah. And yeah, so I'm like, sure, I'll meet with the guy. And I thought, so I had in my head, I'm like, if it's weird, I'll just, if I go to the place and it's like,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
know at a hostel or at like a you know yeah yeah some sketchy like motel and he's like a guy like picking lint out of his belly button you know i'm just gonna get out of there but it was at you know a like a business complex like in studio city adjacent to universal studios walk in you know they brought me in through like the like underground like parking garages and they're just like you know
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
bentley's and beamers everywhere and i go up and walk through this hallway and he's got you know almost like if you were a sport agent how you would have all you know any players you represent so there were you know anyone that was on the cover of penthouse playboy hustler whatever i'm walking through and sit there reception it's like you know his name is derek and like derek will be right with you
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I'm waiting, and there's like porn on the coffee table in the waiting area. He calls me into his office and sits me down. He's like, so tell me, how did you grow up? What are you doing in LA? And what do you hope to accomplish?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I know. But in retrospect, I didn't think about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. Well, yeah. Did you grow up not having something that I can use to manipulate you to do what I want so I can extract value from you? 100% yes. That's what he was saying, but I was too naive to hear it. How'd you grow up? Just me and my mom. Perfect. It should have been a red flag. It was a green flag for him. What are you doing in L.A.?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And then he was like, well, what do you hope to accomplish? And I was like – Yes, be famous. And what's sad about that is famous is objective. It's fictitious. Because if you think, if enough people know, how many people need to know who I am to equate to being famous? How many followers do you need to have? What's the mark? And if there's no mark, there's no measure.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
If there's no measure, there's no reality. And if you get to the place that you thought if you would get to that you would feel some sort of way and you don't, you just increase the measure. Being rich is the same way. It's like if I had this, I would feel that over and over again. And we know the deal. It doesn't work. But I thought, man, if I become somebody... I will feel like I'm somebody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And again, what I was trying to do is I was trying to stack the scale in my favor enough where the kid that didn't have the dad would feel like I was wanted, seen, heard, known. He kind of spoke into all that. He's like, man, you've got acting experience. The porn industry is shifting. We're parodying all these movies. They're doing big films. You can be the lead in all these.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You can make a ton of money by doing the films, and you can do marketing with this. I've got deals with clubs in Vegas. They'll bring you out. You'll sit in the VIP, and they'll pay you $10,000 just to be there, all this stuff. And my career was going okay, but I was having more success modeling than I was acting. I really wanted to act. That was my passion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But there was a part of me, again, I couldn't shake, that like, man, maybe I'm just not good enough to make it. At 22... Your modeling career is not peaked out, but most people have their best years modeling like 16 to 21. That's not definitively true across the board, but a lot of people do. Acting has this a lot longer range.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So you're not paying that per guy. So you're finding anyone off the street that's willing to go get an SED and AIDS test. So you might not be paying them at all. So, you know, and these girls, again, they got all these fans. All you gotta do is post a story in the comments saying, hey, anyone in this vicinity that follows me, do you want to be part of this?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I just thought, man, I just don't have the capability of being successful because... What was that based on? Well, me comparing myself on my peers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And a lot of people that were in the same network as me or even had the same agent as me, they had booked their first lead role or they've done this and they've done that and I hadn't quite done as much as they've done, so I must not be good enough. And I thought, man, maybe this is just a...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
a counterfeit version of the dream that I have and I should hop on this boat before it leaves because maybe this is as good as it's going to get for me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. And I said, okay, well, where do we start? And it's so interesting because— You were already in before you were in. Yeah. Well, at least I was like, well, I'll do one. You know, I'll do one. We'll see, you know. And he's like, okay, well, you got to go get a full STD test and AIDS test. And when that panel comes back, it generally takes 24 hours.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
When that panel comes back, you know, I'll set up a shoot for you. And I was like, you know, great. Sounds good. I'm thinking like, all right, I'm going to get paid to like, you know, take a camcorder and go like hook up with this hot girl. And then I'm going to get a check. I do the test. I go there, and it's full-blown like any other biggest project I've done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I walk in as a receptionist, and it's so interesting. I'd love to dig into this, come back to it. So they give me paperwork to sign. This is how you get paid. Sign here, sign here, sign here. So, so many people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, all of it, 100%. It's over. So many people ask, you know, they just like, especially when they see that I'm a Christian and specifically see that I do ministry vocationally, they're like, well, did you give the money back? And what are you doing with the residuals? What are you doing with the royalties? Royalties and residuals don't exist in porn.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You're a day rate employee and you give away everything. But not only do you sign away everything, what you're signing, the last thing you sign is saying that they reserve the right to disperse and to sell to as many third parties as And, you know, a forever time limit. So what happens is you do a porn and all of a sudden my pictures are on dating sites. My pictures are on sex toys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
My pictures are on billboards. Am I compensated for any of that? No. you know? But anyway, I sign all that paperwork and I walk in and there's, you know, girls in a makeup chair and, you know, like a big, you know, studio, there's catering, there's all this stuff. And then there's this like day bed and there's this like sea of lights around this girl.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And, you know, the PA that's with me, he's like, that's the girl you're going to be working with. She's taking, you know, some photos. She's taking some photos and we'll need you about 30, 40 minutes. We understand this is your first time. So here's a Viagra, put it in my hand. He's like, if you've never taken it before, I'd buy it in half.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So I was like, oh my gosh, like what, you know, what have I gotten myself into? And I'm like in the bathroom, like, you know, still, you know, pretty much a kid, you know? And I'm like talking to myself in the mirror, like, you know, what are you gonna do? And I felt like, I'd gone too far to turn back. But again, everything's so intentional.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Go get a test, bring the test here and you get to have sex with me. And it works. And it's like where like social media is working like a funnel now where, The girls, they're supposed to be provocative on TikTok. And in the TikTok, it says, go to my IG. And on IG, there's a little link in their page. And here's my link tree. And on my link tree is my OnlyFans.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm just waiting on my mom to jump out and like judo chop me in the throat. But so intentional. I got picked up in a town car. I was not told the address that I was going to. So what did I have to do if I wanted to leave? I'd have to call the agent and say, hey, you know, like a kid that went to a sleepover that changed their mind. Like, hey, you know, I'm scared.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I want to come home. So I felt like I couldn't make that call. I think so many of us will do something and we believe the lie that's from Satan. We'll believe a lie that's from Satan that you've gone too far to turn back. So your only choice is to keep going. And that's kind of what I did. So I popped the whole thing, drank a bottle of water, walked out there and waited a few minutes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, when you take Viagra, you start to feel like feel blotchy, like in your chest. And, and I was like, I was like, am I going to pass out? Like what, you know, what's going on? And they kind of waved me over and I never had any kind of interaction with the girl. Like I never, nothing like never talked to her. Like I didn't even know like what her stage name was, her real name was.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I wasn't sure. Cause all you do is you, so you sign that. So they have a photocopies of her ID and, and then a printout of her STD and AIDS test. And you have to see that the test is current, so it has to be 27 days or newer. And her ID has to be valid and not expired. So I had to look at that, match the names, and I had to sign that I saw it. And that was the only interaction I had with her.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
walk over to the, you know, to the scene and, you know, pretty much the, you know, this is, this is still, this is, you know, somewhat back in the day. So like bigger cameras. So the director has this camera and the videographer has this big camera and he's kind of like over my shoulder. And the girl is not looking at me, looking at the camera.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So it's like, you know, the fantasy that you become to believe when you watch porn is there's this like intense connection between the girl and the guy. It's 100% disconnection.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Well, because the director is telling you what to do and telling you how to do it. And you're not having sex for pleasure. You're having sex for show. So it literally has to show. So you're strategically doing it in a way that is visible. So it's very uncomfortable. And it's performance art at best. It's certainly not sex regarding what we would know it to be. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So that happens, and I was like, man, I felt pretty disgusting afterwards. How long does it take? I mean, it just depends on what's going on, what it is. How many people are in the room? Probably 20. 20 people? Yeah. It was, it was wild. I mean, like, again, like there was a boom mic over my head, someone literally like holding a sea light, like underneath my junk. Um, Holy shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And it's just a big funnel to sell porn.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, camera a camera B someone shooting BTS, you know, um, the, most of the girls, they either have, you know, um, someone that's there with them. Uh, they would call them a boyfriend more often than not a pimp. Um, that's, that's there watching. Um,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, probably hundreds.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Maybe not 100, but probably 100. Man. But I did that, and I was like, I felt, man, that was... And I just always remember it. So on my way home, I'm in this town car going home, and it's like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
No. As soon as you finish, you move. Because as soon as you orgasm, they want to take pictures of that. And then you're done. They're shuffled out? Oh, yeah. And then they want to take photos and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, so you're out of there. But it was so interesting. So there was showers on set. But I remember there was not body wash in the shower. There was just dial hand soap.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I was just trying to wash myself with that. And then I'm in the town car, and I'm on my way home, and I can still feel the...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
lube in the hair of my legs i just felt gross and then i got home and i like took this like shower um have you seen redeeming love no it's just it's a it's a it's a faith-based film but essentially there's a girl that works in a brothel she meets a guy that has a faith they connect and he's kind of like trying to get a faith a faith yeah um
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And he's trying to lead her to the Lord and also wanting to be with her. But for us to be together, I want you to follow the Lord. And there's this point where she's – and I can just relate to this so much – where there's something inside her that was craving the only thing that she knew, which was chaos. Right. Because he's in a cottage on a farm. They're eating good food. But that's it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
They're on a farm. It's just him and her. This is pre-television and internet. It's just them. It was like she was going crazy, not experiencing chaos, and she ended up going back to the brothel, and she turned a trick, and it didn't feel the same. And she felt so dirty and so disgusting. She couldn't believe that she went back to the thing that she wanted to be rescued from.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And there's this scene where she's in this river, and she's got a rock. And she's scrubbing her body. But what she's trying to scrub off is not on a surface level. And, man, I've took many of those showers. Damn. But I was like, never going to do it again.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. You see Kanye go from someone who was having these church things and had pretty decent Christian rap come out and then really go on this bender. But I would say, man, the guy experienced significant brokenness in his life. And I think to the person saying, man, how could this person actually know Jesus? I think he liked the idea of Jesus.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And like... I mean, it was not sexy. The girl was not super attractive. There was no positive experience. I mean, I could make $500 bartending at a bar in Hollywood. I mean, there's like 500 bucks for that. I'm like... What a mistake that was. You know, I'm out. But, you know, 2006, different world.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So I didn't realize that that scene was for the most popular website, the most popular porn website in America at that time. And they shoot like three to five scenes a day and they post every day. So the turnaround was pretty quick. So it was up the next week. What was the website? It was like Naughty America or something like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
and it was like so all of a sudden like a few of my fraternity brothers and then a few other people I was like dude I saw you on this website I saw you on this website I saw you on this website and then you know being from a small town the thing about a small town it only takes one person to know one thing about your life for everyone to know everything about your life and
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Someone told my uncle at work, and then my uncle told my mom, and then I get a phone call from my mom. Growing up in the South, how much of your name is used is how much trouble you're in. I heard when I answered the phone, Joshua Luke Broom, did you do a porn? Did you do a porno film? I was like, I did, Mom.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
like in that moment like satan just put his foot on my throat because i already believed there was something wrong with me but i i can remember it so clearly because when i heard the pain in her voice when she said why did you do that satan said to me see you're exactly who you thought you were You're not a kid that does bad things. You are bad. And then I begin to shrink.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I begin to believe, man, I hurt the only person that never hurt me. Maybe I'm not even good enough to be her son. And then a few days go by and then my manager calls me. Normally, when they want me to come by the agency to have an in-person meeting, it's a good thing. It's like, hey, here's an offer on the table, and let's assess it. Do you want to accept it?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Now, your name's attached to a pornography website. That's a big problem for us. I think a lot of you, but we're going to have to end our professional relationship. Fired. So now I'm like... Now what? I blew up my whole life. Bam.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So then, like, well, what do I do? And then I begin to believe the lie that the only thing that I could do as a 22-year-old is continuing to do the very thing that created so much turmoil in my life because that was the only viable option. And in perfect timing, agent calls me, porn agent calls me, hey man, that scene went viral. I'd love to offer you a contract.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
She was hurt, disappointed. Told me that I probably needed to move back home. Damn. And if I'm honest, I didn't know what to say. I didn't say anything because I didn't know what to say. I didn't say I was sorry. I just kind of, yeah, I did it. I didn't know what to do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I'm happy to hear that. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, the porn agent calls me and like, hey, I want to sign you to a contract. And so I doubled down. I was like, well, you know, I'd found some way to, for the most part, everything that I've done in life, I'm relatively successful at. And I thought, well, I have good work ethic. I have good communication and people skills.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So I feel like I can really figure out this industry. So I feel like... I can become the guy. And I did. Over seven years, I did over a thousand films, won around 20 different awards, directed for some big companies, wrote some movies, starred in some of the biggest grossing movies that they've ever put out in the porn industry. They did crazy stuff. We did...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But for Jesus to invade and to help you, to invade your heart, you have to surrender and submit. And that's not a natural thing, especially to the guy who has millions upon millions of dollars and everyone around him saying, like, you're the guy, you're the guy, you're the guy. For you to say, I'm not the guy, and the way to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
We did a Star Wars movie, and I played Han Solo. Most people just think, oh, they had sex. Well, it was shot over several months. They built a replica Millennial Falcon. We had actual replicas of guns and stuff and costumes and grew my hair out and stuff. But...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, and then as I'm doing that, it's like a little part of me was like, oh, this is art in a way, but it's like still, you know, still porn. But doubled down and had a lot of success and got nominated for performer of the year four times. And I didn't win it until 2012, won it in 2012. And I thought, man, if I ever won that award, that would solidify for me my worth.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And if I just won that award, I had this belief that something would happen, like something supernatural would happen in me, like the feeling of worthlessness or inadequacy or whatever I wrestle with on the pillow at night, it'll just go away if I won that award. And then I won it. Nothing happened. And when nothing happened, everything got worse.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
find healing and wholeness is for me to bend my knee to the Lordship of Jesus Christ. That's very different than acknowledging that something exists. So I would just say, I think he liked the idea of Jesus and then he experienced some brokenness and he was trying really hard to to be okay, and he just wasn't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, I was doing... Just every day? Well, because the industry... So the award show is in January, and everyone's trying to get stuff turned in for the year to submit for that. So to make it... Because if something wins an award, then it has notoriety, you can push it, etc. So... Kind of the industry doesn't shut down, but slows down significantly in December and January.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So really like 10-month increments. I was doing 20 scenes a month. minimum and then during the summer sometimes you know i was shooting two three times a day i do i think i've done like 40 something in a month um was the most i did but well i mean what constitutes an award well i mean you know uh is it view counts what is it so i mean there's used to be on showtime you know it was
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
voted by fans and the studios.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because he's just kind of been up, down, up, down, up, down. But I saw he got kicked off of Twitter because he just went on this rampage. He posted porn for two or three hours nonstop, just posting hardcore pornography right after that happened, right after he showed up to the award show with the girl. Is it his wife?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, for the most part, like, you were friends with, and if you dated, you dated from inside the pool of the people who are in that industry. Like, your friend group wasn't exclusive to people who were just in that industry, but...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Dating, it would be really hard to, maybe not in today's age, but it was hard to kind of say, you're meeting someone at the gym or wherever you might meet someone and talking about what you do for a living. It's like, well... I'm a porn star. That's probably not going to be someone you see yourself compatible with. Maybe for a fling, but not a relationship.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So people would date within the industry. And that, I think, was a large part of my mental and emotional demise in that I was dating someone for a while in the industry, for almost two years. And she was already popular, became even more popular. Who was it? Asa Akira is her name. So she's like the face of Pornhub now. She's a spokesperson for Pornhub.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
She's gone viral for multiple things, like crazy things she said. But she was... She was my person at that time. Do you guys still interact? No. No. I mean, I haven't spoke to her since well over 10 years. But the thing was, if all my friends are in that industry and my girlfriend is in that industry...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You live in this suppression of reality in that we would say that we were in a monogamous relationship while having sex with other people, just calling the work in which we did, or calling us having sex with other people at work, we would just call that work. It wasn't sex, it was just work. So they didn't count sex. And we suppressed that as reality.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But what we claimed as reality is that we were in a monogamous relationship. Because off camera and on camera were two different realities. But then you're faced with, I'm sitting at Mastro's in Beverly Hills with a friend of mine. And he's there with his girlfriend. And my friend had had sex with my girlfriend earlier. on Monday and I had sex with his girlfriend that day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And we're pretending as if That's not real, and it's not problematic to the atmosphere. And when you suppress reality, chaos is a promise.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, I was in a place where... I mean, I could have sex, and I would do them. It's like I would have sex in a theater in front of hundreds of thousands of people, and especially in Europe, and not think twice about it. Wait, what? Yeah, they would have live sex shows. It used to be a thing. Hundreds of thousands of people? Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
It's like he was married to a Kardashian and they got – I mean, I don't know exactly what happened, but it's sad. It's sad. I know, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Or you know how now it's become popular to take your podcast on the road to have that live element? Well, instead of watching a porn on a screen, you would watch it happen live. That was a thing for a while. But I could do that and drop the hat, like no problem at all, like not face me. But you look me in the eye and shake my hand, tears would stream down my face because that was real.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
It was terrifying. Jeez. Like that's how much I had suppressed reality.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I think it was in – Probably two years in, but is either in Vegas or was one of the first times. And then like stuff like that happens a lot, like in Europe or like Barcelona. Do you remember the first time? I don't. No? No. Everything just became so – there was no interaction that was more special than the others.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
The only thing that I have real memories around is the roles I played where there was significant – there was a script to learn, a character to play, things that were outside of – you know, the sex aspect, because in a porn, you know, cause like Star Wars, we filmed, you know, over three or four months, there's five sex scenes, you know, which takes, you know, a few hours to film.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So like there was a lot of the movie that wasn't sex. So I just like that, like that whole thing, that whole experience was very memorable to me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Or even... Yeah, or... Either that or the polar opposite of like they're all in and they're swingers 24-7 and like sex is just, you know, sex and high-fiving someone is all the same. Let's just have a party, have fun, you know. Yeah. Because some people could work as a director and someone would be having sex with their significant other and they would just film it and it would just be whatever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Wow. For me, again, single parent, my mom was young. She's a beautiful woman. I remember... throwing cans of corn at a guy, trying to talk to my mom, like, get away from my mom, I'm going to protect my mom.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So jealous kid turned into jealous boyfriend, which turned into, even though I was in that industry, that was my girl, I didn't want anyone to touch her, which is how I felt, but I had to suppress that feeling because of what I said. And I think that would bring up an interesting point where People say, I love what I do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Well, if you love what you do, let's go back to that moment where I said yes to being in the porn industry. Well, I'm going to make you famous. Okay, Derek, you're going to make me famous. What's the first thing I do? What's next? Okay, well, we got to pick you a name to go by. Sorry. I'm going to pick you a name to go by. You go by pseudonym.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because if I can get you to detach yourself from who you are, you will do things that are outside of and different than things that you would ever do. Like you think about social media, the antagonist on the other side that's, you know, Talking trash to everyone online, what are two things that are always common of that person?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
They have an obscure username and they have a meme or a random photo as their photo because if I can detach who I am from what I do, then I'm not held accountable for what I do. So it's not me doing the things. In the porn industry, very same thing. I'm going to get you to go by a pseudonym because I can get you to detach yourself from your humanity. That's interesting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So that was the first thing I did. So with that thought in our mind, who I am, it began to matter less and less.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, it's interesting. It's really interesting because like drugs and alcohol onset, like there was some of that before me. Like there was, you know, there was always like, times or if it was like a live shoot, kind of like everything's kind of out the window. There's no rules, you know? But for the most part... What do you mean a live shoot? Like a live show. Like a live show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, where it's like we're filming something happening live and it's streaming or someone's watching. So we're not creating, you know, a curated and, you know, crafted and edited product. If we're creating that, then they want a more controlled environment.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But it's more so to deal with the consequence of what you did in contrast of being able to do what you did. People aren't getting drunk and high on set to do the scene. They're getting drunk and high because they did the scene.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And then once addiction sets in, those things start to bleed into each other. I mean, there were certainly times where people came to set drunk high, all the things. I mean, I've seen it all. I mean, part of the reason that I'm so passionate about talking about it is As of today, over 40 people have committed suicide or died of overdose. Every roommate I've ever had except one dead.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And these are people, not just like total in the industry, like these are people I knew personally, like friends of mine. You know, people we had meals with, like traveled places together, like people I knew. And when they would die, The porn industry would make a compilation film of their best ofs. Why? To monetize on the thing in which caused their demise.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, just paint a picture of how fictitious it is. I mean, the girls are using numbing cream. All the guys are using erectile dysfunction medication. There were some directors that would require you to use Caverjack. So Caverjack is for...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
paraplegic, you know, people where, you know, you would inject something into the cavern of your penis and, you know, you would have an erection for, you know, three or four hours. It doesn't matter if you're reading the newspaper or, you know, whatever. And then the danger is if you use too much, then you've got to go to the hospital and get lanced because it's not going to subside, you know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Or you use it for long enough, then you become dependent on it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean... Is that... I mean... Well, I mean, for the most part, even if you did that, you would... Because I work so much, I would not finish. Because I was like... You'd want to save your orgasm. Because the quantity... was important because if that wasn't there and they couldn't capture what they needed, then, you know, they would be upset. Holy shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, so when you had sex, it was like, yeah, not that often. Not unless you had a, you know, big break and you went on a vacation or something like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
It was like, you know, it was almost like, you know, If you worked at Krispy Kreme and you love donuts, like, the last thing that you would want to do is eat donuts, you know? But, yeah. And I think, like, just, like, the, like... So the agent that I had, when girls would come into the industry, they'd ask them their no list, right? So things you don't want to do, you know, anal, stuff like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Like, what do you not want to do? So it's on your no list. And then, you know, if a director would ask, well, you know, does this girl do this? No, it's on their no list. But the way that worked was, Like in the industry, your no doesn't really mean no. It means how much. Yeah. So the way that the porn agents would work is there would be things that girls wouldn't do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And after a period of time, if their popularity would start to subside, they're not getting as many requests, they would go to a few studios and say, hey, how much would you pay for such and such to do anal? Like, you know, 15 K, 20 K, 30 K, 30 K. Okay. High spitter. Then he would go back to the girl. It's like, Hey, out of nowhere,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
This studio just said that they would give you $30,000 if you would be willing to do anal. And I know you said you didn't want to do it, but you're not getting as many requests as you had been in the past. And you do that, they'll make a big deal of it, you'll become relevant again, and then your career's just going to start to skyrocket. She does it, but what happens?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You never know. It could be a four-minute voice memo of just chaos.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
What she never wanted to do and she did one time becomes something that she does all the time. Because once she does it, it loses its whatever. And they would just do that with girls over and over and over again. At the same time, they would convince them to do escorting. And it's like they would spend weekends or go on trips with guys. And it's like, well, there's a check. And there's a test.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
As long as there's a check and a test, it's all the same, is the way they would present it to them. We're making the client get the same STD and AIDS panel, so they're clean and you're getting paid. So they just convinced them that, you know, so they were trafficking them. Wow. Because it wasn't on like a public site. It wasn't quite on the dark web, but it wasn't far from it. Or not.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
That guy, Derek, he ended up serving time for sex trafficking because he was extorting girls. He would bring girls in from different countries, get them fake IDs, have them paid in cash, living in his own house, charging them rent to pay in their house, taking some of their money that they were getting paid as their agent and their landlord. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, you look at research, average age of exposure three years ago was 11. It's trending towards eight years old now. Eight? Eight years old. And what's interesting, so 84% of first-time exposure to pornography for kids is secondhand exposure, meaning that they weren't looking for it. They were either on an unprotected device, and it was looking for them,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
and making the, the, the, the, the people who paid them, paid them in cash. So he would take the money and he decided how much they got. Shit. I'm gonna go to some, I'm gonna go somewhere pretty dark. Um, um, so I, I, uh, Ooh, So with guys, they would ask, do you want to do VIP parties? Do you want to bartend or whatever? You'd bartend shirtless, and you'd make $10,000, $20,000. And...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I would do stuff like that sometimes. And it was almost like, you know, it's kind of what we're talking about. Like, how do you ever get to, you know, this place? Like, how do you go from here to here?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Like, how do you go from, you know, me personally, the first magazine that I ever saw that, like, created a sexual thought in my head, it was, like, it was, I think it was, like, Matt, no, like, GQ, like, or the... I don't know, like a swimsuit version of Maxim or something like that. But it was just like a see-through bathing suit. How did I go from there to watching hardcore porn?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So doing porn, getting paid for sex. They're doing these bartending stuff. And then there was a high-profile company in the fashion industry that would have these parties. And they would bring out guys and girls to do these parties. And the girls would walk around naked. Guys would walk around in boxers, whatever, serve everyone drinks. I went there. It was in Paris.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Long story short, I went there and got drugged and raped by the owner of a very well-known fashion, what used to be the CEO of a very well-known fashion organization. And when that happened to me, I thought, it's my fault. This is what I signed up for. You know, this is who I am. And... Then I started trying to sabotage. I was towards the end of my career, so I started trying to sabotage myself.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
started making a pretty clear plan to take my life. And I kind of looked up, like, I had this pretty strong pain medication. You know, like, how many pills would do the trick? Okay, well, take that number, maybe add two more. And I put them on the counter. And I'd separate them. It's like I took old school vitamins. I used to take the VitaPak, like an animal pack or whatever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I'd take like 40 vitamins at once. So I'm like, I knew I could take a lot of pills at once. So I separated them so I could make sure I'd get them down, swallow them, wouldn't chicken out. And I set them up like that. Time after time after time, I just could never do it. And then this one day, I was filming in Atlanta, and it was a disgusting shoot.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
People were urinating on each other, spitting on my face, in my mouth, stuff like that. And I'm just like... What have I become? I was like, I want to die. Can't undo what I've done. Got more money than I thought I would ever see. Growing up, food stamps, trailer, government housing. Got a nice Breitling collection and nice home. Do all the stuff. But I'm miserable.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because this is the world that we live in. Because of streaming and things like that, everything has porn on it to the extent, depending on what your definition of porn would be. And then just being at school or someone else's home And then it was shown to them. But it's crazy, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And this is what I've made of my life. There's no hope. There's no hope. There's no way out. But I needed someone to agree with me. So I got paid from that scene, and the directors, on the memo of the checks, they would always write something grotesque.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Like, if the title of the movie wasn't sexually explicit enough, they would write something being antagonistic, knowing that you're going to have to give that check to someone. And I normally wouldn't do that. I would just... ATM, Dropbox, anything other than handing it to a person. But on this day, that was going to be my formula. I put the water on the counter. I lined up the pills.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
The Wachovia that I banked at was across the street from the place that I lived. And I walked over there, had the check, waited in line, handed the check to the teller. And I waited. What did it say on the check? It's like gang bang or like something like that. And I wanted that person to, you know, some look of disgust. Best case scenario, say like, you know, how sick are you or something.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
She said nothing, you know, deposited the check, handed me the receipt. You know, I got tears streaming down my face, pale, like, you know, shaking. And I defeated because I didn't get what I wanted. I didn't know what to do. And then I look up and she had walked around the counter and she put her hand on my shoulder and she said, Joshua, are you okay? Joshua, can I get you some help?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And Sean, that was the first time I had heard my real name in 18 months. Wow. And it just like, it just like woke me up. And I beelined it to my place and I called my mom and I hadn't, you know, my mom had been calling and texting me, didn't respond. I thought, you know, she's just reaching out to me because she feels like she has to, but I've lost the right of being her son.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I've disqualified myself. I think it was my pride, my shame. But I called her, and when she answered the phone, she lit me up. She, you know, good Southern mama, she cussed me out, you know, because she was worried about me. But then she said everything that I didn't think she would. She said, I will always love you and you will always be my son.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Not to come out swinging, but I would say probably the most dramatic thing I would share with you is that, so a really good friend of mine, she once was a critical care nurse in Kansas City, Missouri. About six months ago, she started a nonprofit and she's just speaking on this full time. But she started seeing a reoccurring theme
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And you're so much better than the way you're living. Please come home. So right then and there, I called everybody I needed to call. I quit, I quit, I quit. And I subleased my place pretty quickly and left LA. But when I left, I didn't think I could change and I didn't have any kind of, it wasn't any kind of spiritual awakening, but I do think that was the Holy Spirit in that bank.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But very quickly I thought, okay, you know, what do I have? What do I have that I can use? Okay, well, you know, I'd been doing CrossFit for a while. I got a level one certification. Maybe I can coach CrossFit. I got an exercise science background a little bit, strength conditioning, you know, understand that. Maybe I can get into that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And then I did, you know, the formula that I knew that worked. Find a good mentor. get, you know, double down, work really hard, get some credentials, you know, build a kingdom for myself. And, you know, I was working with this guy, Jason Davidson. He was the strength conditioning coach for the Carolina Hurricanes.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
He was leading the Thor program at Fort Bragg, plugged me into some right circles, vows for me. And all of a sudden, you know, I had, you know, what I like to say is I put enough good dirt on my bad dirt so I didn't look dirty. Because I couldn't change. I didn't believe I could. But what I thought I could do is I could manage people's perception of me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And if I did enough good, it would outweigh the bad that was impossible for me to run from. And I spent about two years doing that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
That one shoot, that last shoot was the last straw, but it was the relationship. So that relationship got more toxic. It went from... us being at dinner where we had sex with the other person across the, you know, table to her wanting to talk about stuff that was happening on set, like, you know, in our home. And I was, it was interesting because I was like, man, I need to man up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
This shouldn't bother me. But it does. And I think, you know, we look at men in today's society, it's like, We're struggling with a mental health crisis because we pretend like we're okay when we're not. And the inevitable fact of pretending like you're okay when you're not, the thing that's not okay is not going to get better, it's going to get worse. So I allowed that to be part of
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
our relationship or her to tell me stuff that she was doing with other people and pretending like that was arousing to me. And I think, again, just like further and further compromising myself as an individual and suppressing reality led to combustion internally.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. I mean, again, the jealous kid in the grocery store is still the jealous kid that I don't want anyone to look at my girlfriend. Now I'm saying that I'm okay with people having sex with her. But yeah, so I mean that progression, and just the reality of me having sex with as many people as I did, and it just becoming,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And it was that, so she was an examiner for sexual abuse cases of children. And she was noticing over and over again that two things were happening, that the abuser of the child was between 10 to 14 years old, and it was a sibling. And she was like, and it was a lot of cases like that in Kansas City. And she was like, is there just something weird going on here?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
the most arbitrary thing in the world is incredibly dangerous for your mental and emotional health. For me to walk into this studio and a girl to be sitting there and for me not to talk to her or anything and I just walk up to her and start having sex with her and then there's a bunch of cameras around and I'm doing it for these cameras and then I orgasm and then leave. And that's my job.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
That's what I do for my career. That's what I do, you know, four or five days a week. And I do that for, you know, short of a decade. Like that's, I mean, that's going to damage you significantly.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Oh, yeah. I mean, there was, yeah. I mean, suicide is rampant. People are dying of overdose. I think last time I looked, around 500 people have died of overdose, suicide, and murder worldwide. over the last 20, 25 years.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And murder, because if you believe little of your, you know, if you believe little of yourself, you're going to end up in a relationship where that person thinks little of you, and there's abuse, and that abuse turns into, you know, you losing your life. And like the amount that happening, it's documented, is pretty astronomical. And then just, I mean, you know, we were talking about
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Not to change the topic, but we were talking about guardian angels. It's like, man, there was HIV outbreaks in the industry. There were people I had unprotected sex with that had HIV that they died. There was an HIV outbreak that was big enough in the industry that it shut down for, you know, not a long time, but around two months.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, I call it a first-date mask, you know, where you don't know who you are, but you pretend to be whoever you think the person across from you wants you to be so that you can, you know, appease them. or so that they would like you because you don't really know who you are or you believe who you are doesn't have any value.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But I would say there's this, generally across the board, there was this belief that doing something outside of the industry the longer that you stayed in the industry was impossible. So the only, the best possible outcome
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
is that you have a good longstanding career in the industry and then one of the studios that you worked for a lot, you get hired on as a director and then you work as a director. That was the next hopeful progression because not being in the porn industry wasn't an option because being in the porn industry meant you couldn't do anything else. At least that's what I wanted you to believe.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, for example, Cagney Lynn Carter, she was a great friend of mine. She got in a little bit after me, stayed in much longer than me, much later than me. And I think it was last year, she had left the industry and opened a dance studio. She was a ballet dancer in her teens, something she still was passionate about, and she opened up a place.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And she started asking her peers in different places. Her name's Heidi Olson. I know where you're going with this. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But everyone around her was like, you can do whatever you want. You can say that your name is whatever, but I know who you are. You'll never escape from that. You'll always be that person. And she tried really hard. And it's so sad, bro, because she took her life. And the day that she took her life, she posted a photo of herself on the beach saying, I'm free. But what...
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But what's true is she was in prison. I wanted to leave the industry. I wanted to do something else. But you begin to believe that you can't. And it's not something you do. It's who you are. And if the only thing in which you can do is to sell yourself for sex, then your no loses its volition. It loses its validity. Your no loses its validity.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because if the only thing that you can say yes to is selling yourself for sex, then you can't say no to anything. So you say yes to everything. And it's just so sad, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, just to think it, you know, I was sharing with someone, you know, there's, you know, 40 of my friends, suicide, overdose. Those porns are still there. You know, it's like, man, if I could encourage someone that's watching that now, it's like, man, you know, there's this like,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
There's all these things that are true while you don't know if there was forced fraud or coercion regarding the scene that you're watching. You don't know how old that person is. You don't know if they gave consent. And then in this situation, what I'm saying is you don't know if the thing in which they did...
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
caused them so much pain and hurt that it led to their death, and you're partaking in the thing in which caused their demise, and you're extracting pleasure from it. And that person is dead because of what they did, and they're still making money off of it. I mean, it's crazy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, right before November 4th, last big push from the Harris-Walls campaign, they ran ads on Pornhub in seven different states. Why? 120 million viewers a day. And they ran an ad saying it was someone that, you know, a character that somewhat resembled Trump walking in. And it was so gross. There was this guy masturbating underneath a blanket.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And he was looking at his phone and someone that looks like Trump comes in and takes the phone away and says, if you don't want to lose your right to watch porn, you better vote in the same way that you want, you know, to consume that. Are you shitting me? No. Seven states ran those ads. What states? I'm not sure. Jeez.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, I would assume very left states, but we're about to get to a point in the story that's pretty cool.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I know one girl. I don't know one guy. Well, I know guys that have made it out. I don't know guys who are whole and healthy. For example, a good friend of mine, his name's Greg. His porn name is Randy Spears. He even had a character on Family Guy. And he lives in San Antonio, and he still goes by Randy Spears. He's got a normal job. He's not in the porn industry anymore.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. Well, I mean, just the reality that... So in around 60% of the sexual assault cases that happen to children in the United States, the perpetrator is A, between 10 to 14 years old, and B, it's a sibling. So that's... It's in the 60% in the U.S. It's higher in Europe, highest in Australia, around 73%. And then...
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
He's about 10 years older to me. But, you know, I talked to him and it's like, you know, he called me Rocco. Like when he called, I called him and left him a voice memo or a voice message because he didn't answer. And when he called me back, he called me Rocco. And he said that, you know, he was Randy. And he sent me his social, he like texted me his social media and Randy Spears.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I think it's this belief that who I am, could never supersede that persona. So I'm going to cling on to that because my worth is so much less than this. Yeah, I know one person named Brittany. She lives in Santa Barbara with her husband, Richard. They're actually both in ministry. They actually help girls that are in trafficking or prostitution. They kind of help them get back on their feet.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But yeah, she's the only person that I know.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Tons. Every day. And it's like, some people are very frustrated with me. Because I mean, there's still people who are in the industry that are very successful that either I, you know, I mentored or were good friends to me because, you know, a lot of the guys who were younger when I was in the industry, you know, they were like, you know, how do I do this? how do I do this right?
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
How do I make a career out of this? You know, how do I, you know, because the thing that I was best at was, well, I understood, well, if you get relational equity with a director, then he's going to hire you often. He's going to recommend you, you know, to other people. I understood networking, understood relationships.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And it's like, I wasn't, I was a good actor, you know, but I cared about people and I remember people's names and, you know, so like simple stuff was the things that allowed me to be very successful in that industry. And I was just teaching them simple things that worked well for them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But I've had conversations as of recently, as recent as a month ago, of people who are very, very successful in the industry today that have been in the industry now approaching 15, 20 years, saying, man, I thought we were friends. And I was like, what do you mean by that? He's like, you say all this stuff about the industry. I'm like, yeah, man, I detest the industry with every fiber of my being.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I think it's vile and evil, but I love you. I don't have to agree with what you're doing. I understand you find identity in that, so I understand why that feels offensive to you. But I don't have any animosity towards you. I wish you would do something different with your life.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because the reality is, bro, if you are, girls also, if you're in the top 3% to 5% of any industry, you have the capacity of being excellent at another trade and being more successful. You have charisma and gifts and talents that you are misappropriating.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But if you surrender and you submit to your life, to the person of Jesus Christ, and allow him to take the things that he put in you and point them in the right direction, guess what? You're going to 10x your success. And it's going to be something that you're doing that is fulfilling because it's going to be the thing that you're made to do. So yeah, I don't hate you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
fastest growing niche of pornography is incestual, the step-bro, step-sister stuff. And the reality is, 100% of the cases, the kids are addicted to porn. They're watching porn, they're developing fantasies, and then they're superimposing these fictitious desires, they're imposing them on their sibling.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I hate the choices that you're making, but I don't hate you. And they just don't get it. So there has been a lot of situations that I wish that I could have had the conversation in person.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So day one, I'm living now in Raleigh, North Carolina. And first thing I do, I'm like, you know what? I've got a Celtic cross tattoo on my shoulder that for some reason in my mind, like I'm not walking around with my shirt off, but I'm like, I know that is on a hundred, you know, covers of porn, you know? I'm going to get that covered up. So I get it covered up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I got like a, I got a fish like coming out of water and like, you know, freaking cool, you know. But I got that covered up and shaved my head, deleted my social media. And it's like, Rocco Reed, gone, dead. New life. Walk into a Whole Foods. Like literally, I haven't even moved into my place yet. And a guy in the meat section is like, rock a read. I was like, are you kidding me?
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And then it just continued to happen over and over again. And then I'm just kind of like, I was kind of found, you know, I was found out, but I just kind of, you know, deflect from it. And I was just trying to build, like, I'm a trainer, I'm a trainer, I'm a trainer, I'm a good trainer, I'm a good trainer.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I got a lot of personal training clients, you know, making money, I'm doing good, I'm helping people, I'm doing good. And two years of that. And two years in, this girl comes into the gym. She's wearing like all Iowa Hawkeye cheerleading stuff. So she had obviously, you know, was an alum, was very proud that she had cheered at Iowa.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
gorgeous best athlete in the gym but she was different in that she worked really hard she would kick everybody's butt in the workout she was a gymnast so she could you know all this like old school CrossFit like if you could walk on your hands and like do stuff like that like if you were good at that like you already had a you know an edge over everybody else um
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But she was just better than everybody, and I was just fascinated about, you know, with her. And she was gorgeous. So I asked her on a date, and she was like, I'm good. I was like, with love, you know, rejection, you know. So I asked her out a bunch of times, and she was finally like, well, I'll go for a long run. before church on Sunday mornings.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
They're tying up their brother and sister and raping them because they've developed an appetite for something that they don't know what to do with, and the porn doesn't, again, Like we were talking earlier, this belief that you can consume something and it not have a real impact on your output. Like in what world does that make sense?
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
If you want to meet me at this park, we can go for a run. And I was like, all right, you know, I'll take whatever I can get. And I get there and I'm there early and I'm waiting. And I started thinking, I'm like, man, you know, Christmas party and like a few other parties we have, like she didn't really hang out that much.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
She's always at the gym, but after the workout, if she's not doing extra work or whatever, she's not hanging out mingling.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah. So, AKA, she doesn't know my story.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
No. And I'm like, man, if she knew who I was... She would not agree to this. And there was just some conviction that I had. I'm like, man, I need to be forthcoming with this. Not something I'd done in the past. And when she got there, the run never made its way to a run. It was maybe a brisk walk. And I was like, hey, I want to share something with you. It's going to be a little heavy.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
She was like, okay, what's up? And I was like, kind of like laid out my guts. I was like, man, I'm the kid that his daddy didn't want, and I did all this porn, and it's still all over the Internet, and every bad thing I've ever done that creates shame in my life, it's on the Internet forever, and this is who I am. And she was just like... Holy crap. Super taken back. And she didn't say anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
We just continued to walk. She didn't say a word. I didn't know if she was mad or she was going to slap me. You know, I don't know, am I going to get fired? You know, I was just thinking, like, all these. Then she stopped, and she looked at me like, you know, she's an elementary teacher. There's a look that, like, a mom or a teacher has, and she just looked at me with this, like,
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
She's like, hey, I don't want to minimize the pain that you've experienced in your life. And I don't want to negate the real problems that your decisions have made for you. But I want you to know that you're not defined by the worst thing you've ever done. And you won't be defined by the greatest thing you ever do. Because there's one author of you, and it's not you. It's God.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Do you know who that is? Do you know God? And I was like, maybe. I went to church a little bit when I was a kid because my grandmother, my grandfather, they went to church. They had a faith. I was like, I know of God. I certainly don't know God.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And she was like, well, I've been following Jesus since I was in the seventh grade, and I'm not perfect by any means, but my foundation that I live from is from my relationship with Him. The way I live my life is contingent on my relationship with Him. So what kind of food do you like? I was like, what? Are you like an alien or something? Like, what? Like, what are you talking about?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You can't like whatever you ingest, once it metabolizes, there has to be somewhere for it to go. Wow. So to the person thinking, you know, porn's harmless. Who can it hurt? Kids. There you go. At a significant rate.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Like, you don't want me to leave? Like, she's asking me about SMART goals. I'm like, dude, I don't know what an acronym is. Like, what are you talking about? Like, I had the worst of intentions with you. Like, I... My plan A, B, and C is to hook up with you. I don't, I have no idea. And then we just walked and talked and she asked me questions that I didn't think of for a long time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
What do I want to, in the gym industry, would you ever want to own a gym? What's your relationship like with your family? Like, do you, like, would you ever want to have kids? You know, just asking me things that, like, I, like, honestly, like, I feel like it had been so long of, like, me thinking like that. I was, like, reaching for humanity I didn't know if I still had.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
That went on for, you know, we walked and talked for, like, probably two hours and And then we went separate ways and text like high school idiots for a week. And then on Saturday, she was like, hey, I would love for you to come with me to church. And I was like, Wherever you're going, yes, I'll be there. Wherever the pretty girl's going, yes. And she had been catalytic for some curiosity.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I'm like, what in you allowed you to respond to me like that? There's this really great book I love, Master Plan of Evangelism. Robert E. Coleman wrote it, and he talks about how it's good to tell people something, but it's better to show that. People are often not looking for an explanation. They're looking for a demonstration.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I think Colossians 4, like Paul's talking about, hey, I'm in prison for preaching the gospel, but I'm praying for opportunities to preach the gospel, and I'm praying to do it with clarity, and I'm praying to do it with tact. I want to be wise towards outsiders. And most importantly, man, allow my speech to be gracious and seasoned with salt so I might know how I ought to answer each person.
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Because how I respond matters. How I respond to the individual in front of me. Not a blanket statement, the person in front of me. How I am aware, how I'm intentional, how I react is important. And the way that she reacted to me, like, it... It was like, wow, dude. And she invited me to church. And we went there. And I thought, am I going to catch on fire when I walk in?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I certainly have no business here is what I was thinking. And then, you know, my, my only like, I think a lot of people can relate to that. Yeah.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, I thought, you know, if you had tattoos on your arm and wrinkles on your shirt, like you're going to hell. You know, that's what I thought. And then I saw a man with tattoos and, you know, a T-shirt and jeans get up on stage preaching. And he told the story of 2 Samuel 9. And just to provide a little bit of context, so 2 Samuel 9, it's King David.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
David had just rebuilt the temple, and now he's kind of at the pinnacle of his reign as king. And he's just rebuilt the temple, and he had done something for God. And then he was asking himself introspectively, Lord, what can I do for your people to show your loving kindness to me? How can I reciprocate the love that I've experienced from you to your people?
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And then he's like, oh, yeah, I made this promise. to my friend Jonathan. So Jonathan was the son of Saul. Saul, his kingdom was stripped from him when he sinned. And then David was chosen and anointed to be king. And then there was this conflict between Saul and David. And Saul had a son, Jonathan. And Jonathan and David were great friends.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And Jonathan even was like, hey, I know my dad's trying to throw spears at you and trying to kill you. And he's kind of lost it.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
he's plotting on you i'm gonna have your back i'm gonna let you know and then david said hey i'm gonna make this covenantal promise with you that i'm gonna show you love and affection not only to you forever but to your family as well now fast forward he's remembering this and he's saying man um how can i show this to you know god's people and he's oh
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I wonder if there's anyone left out of the house of Saul. And he finds a guard, Ziba is the guard's name, and he served under Saul. And he's like, hey, is there anyone left? And he's like, yeah. Mephibosheth was the son of Jonathan, but he's in this place called Lodabar. It means place of no pasture.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
He's in hiding because when he was around five or six years old, when his dad and his grandfather, when Jonathan and Saul were killing battle, There was this hierarchy where he was next in line to be king, but David was chosen and anointed to be king.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So if David had his right place on the throne, historically, if there was an opposing person that could potentially cause an upheaval, they were identified and eradicated. That was the plan. So he was in hiding because he thought his head was on the chopping block. David goes, finds him, brings him in front of him, and Mephibosheth is like, you know, doomsday. Today's the day. I'm going to die.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I've been found. And David says, actually, I'm going to give to you, I'm going to restore back to you your grandfather's land, which is part of Canaan, so the promised land. I'm going to give you... access back to your land, and I'm going to invite you into my kingdom, and I want you to have a seat at my table, not for a day, not for a week, but forever. You are now part of this family."
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I was like, wow, this is amazing. It's a beautiful picture of grace. But 2 Samuel 9, verse 8, Mephibosheth, how does he respond to this? Does he's like, wow, you know, God is so good. Wow, this is amazing. No. He refers to himself as a dead dog. He says, what would you want to do with a dead dog like me? And I was like, yeah, that's it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because before he was talking about, man, Romans 3.23 says that we've all sinned and fall short of the glory of God, so everybody's guilty. Romans 6.23, the wages of sin is death. So if we're all guilty and that guilt equates to death, eternal separation from God, if that's true for everyone, then okay, I'm on the same playing field. But then you're talking about this grace of God.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, I'm like, okay, you know, Proverbs 10, 9, whoever confesses with their mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe that he was raised on the third day will be saved. I'm like, this is amazing. But then I still find myself, don't you know who I am? Don't you know what I've done? Don't you know who my daddy is? Don't you know even he didn't want me? And then he read Hebrews 12, 2.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
It talks about how Jesus went to the cross with joy in His heart set before Him, scorning our shame, before He sat down at the right hand of God. Joy. You're talking about that Jesus was fully God, fully man, so fully perfect. He's omniscient. He's all-knowing. So an all-powerful, all-knowing God went to the cross. He was obedient to his Father, so that makes sense.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But why would he have joy in his heart? And then it hit me. Because he loves me. Because He loves me. God loves me. And I just kept saying it to myself over and over and over again. And I fell to my knees and I started to cry. I'm not sure what happened that day, but when I stood up, I gave my life to Jesus the best I knew how. And what I felt when I stood up was the rock was off my back.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I understood the Father that I always wanted. He gave me pictures of shielding me and protecting me and walking with me and fighting for me and believing the best about me. That's why Romans 5.8 is so powerful. While knowing the worst thing you've ever done, Jesus went to the cross and died for you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
It talks about how you wouldn't do that for a bad person, maybe for a righteous person, but not someone that had done the things that we did that put him on the cross. Like, no way. While knowing the worst thing you've ever done, the thing that you would not want to say out loud, he knows that and he chooses you. Why? Because he loves you. And that love, it changed me that day.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
It didn't fix all my problems. I was still very much a knucklehead. But man, if there was something that I was sure of, it was that God loved me. And I wanted to be different. And the thing that I didn't think was possible just came true, is that I had a father. who adored me. And that girl, her name is Hope, which is pretty cool. And I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I married her.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And we've been married for nine years. and got four boys, and I've just seen so much beauty come from the ashes of my life. And from that moment of being discipled and going to Liberty and getting a theological education to Preaching at Liberty at Convocation last month and doing, you know, having conversations with incredible people like yourself. Like, I didn't have the guts.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, for me... It's like, you know, so thinking about like fighting, like I wasn't the best fighter, but I was a good counterpuncher, you know? Basketball, like I was quick, but I wasn't fast. So I was a shooter, so I had to, I could create separation so I could get my shot off. All these things were technique-driven, but I understood that it would yield results.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So I believed, man, if I take inventory of the things in my life that don't line up with where I want to go, and I implement a regimen of things that will set me on the trajectory for me to go, then it'll work. Okay, so where do I start? I need a mentor. So first thing I did, it was so crazy. I go to this church. It was a pretty big church in Raleigh.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I was like, there's a pastor I can talk to. Like, sure. Executive pastor. Around the corner. Just happened to be in there. His name's Gary Vett. And I walked in there, and I was like... can I tell you a story? Because I feel like God wants me to build a boat. But I shared with him my story.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I was like, man, I feel like I need to build a foundation because I think there's people that God's going to use my story to rescue, to point to himself. And that's the boat that I feel like I need to build. What am I supposed to do? And he's like, Wow. And then he grabs this guy, Andrew.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And Andrew just graduated from DTS, Dallas Theological Seminary, moved to Raleigh to help open another campus. And discipleship was something that he was passionate about and gifted in, very gifted teacher. And it's funny. I used to tell a story. It was like, man, he was a new guy on staff. He had all this free time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Knowing what I know now in ministry, the new guy on staff does not have free time. You're doing all this stuff. But he's like, I didn't have time. And honestly, my plan was to give you a Bible, tell you what to read, and tell you to get plugged into a small group. And he was like, man, just the Holy Spirit just fell on me and convicted me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Like when you walked in my office and I was like, man, I've got to, pour out every bit of me into him. And I don't know why. And he didn't know what he was getting himself into. He's like, man, I just want you to open up my office to you. I want to spend as much time discipling you as you want to spend. So I was like, okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, I've got a little bit of a crazy work ethic where I was like, all right. So I was like doing everything I could to like, I was like giving away personal training clients and I was showing up at his office and I was spending 10 to 15 hours a week with Andrew.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And, you know, we started in the book of John where the book of John, you know, anyone asked me, what's the first book of the Bible I need to read? The book of John. The book of John is an eyewitness account of the life of Jesus. John walked with Jesus, and John wants you to know, hey, this is who Jesus is, this is what Jesus did, and this is how it matters to all that believe.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
John specifically has written to not specifically a Greek audience, not specifically a Jewish audience. It's an overarching audience, so it uses language that's not confusing. It's very clear. So we dug into that. I wasn't a scholarly dude, but I could read and regurgitate stuff, but it wouldn't always conceptualize.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
It's true that the Bible says that the Word of God is alive and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, divides bone and marrow. Where if you are allowing the Holy Spirit to lead you, I think it's important that we pray before we read our Bible. I was reading this text, and it wasn't just words on a page. It was words. coming into my heart and undoing things.
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#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And it was like, I was like receiving, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's, I think it's appropriate that we talk about Jesus is the bread of life. You know, it's the water that will never leave you thirsty because once you experience like true sustenance, like if you've ever been starving and,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, you know this as someone who was in the military and anyone that's been around athletics. I have to have good self-awareness before I can have discipline. So for us as parents, we can't believe that. We can just protect our kids from the world. The Bible tells us that bad things will happen. The world is not a safe place. You can't protect your kids from everything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
and then you find sustenance, like you're satisfied in a way that is almost like you can't fully articulate. It was that, and I experienced a peace that came with that that I became very hungry for and I couldn't get enough.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And for me, it used to be, man, if you come to my house or my grandma's house, her buttermilk biscuits are ridiculous and she's such a great grandma that I get out of school at 3.37, she's taking them out of the oven at 3.40, They're hitting a plate, and you can bite them. They're still crispy on the top, and they're soft in the middle. She times it perfect. You've got to try this.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
The gospel became that for me. It was like, man, this really works. This really is changing my life, and it's beautiful and interesting and captivating, and it's the best story ever told. And that story, it's about a God that is personal and wants to get to know you, and man, I can't wait to tell you about Him. And that just became... all I ever wanted to do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
If I'm honest, I get to do some really cool stuff, but at the end of the day, that's the thing that fires me up most. So it started there. But I think if you're to teach anyone anything, I'm talking about Victor. Victor's going to show me how to do something with a knife. And then he was going to give me the knife, and then I need to show him what he showed me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because if I can't replicate what you just taught me, I didn't catch it. And you have to apply it to truly learn it. And I think when we...
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
reciprocate our our faith in that we we share things that god has you know implanted on us to others there's something that's solidified you think there's you know there's something beautiful that happens when there's a a physical and practical response to something that's prompted in us spiritually and that's just has been natural for me how long did it take you to learn forgiveness
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
A lot longer. I think the first step of that was when our first son was born. I remember, like, my wife is like a germaphobe, and she's always like, you know, Have you washed your hands? Have you washed your hands? Our kids, we will be somewhere and wash our hands and get in our car.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And if we pick up takeout, and we're going to eat it on the way home, and they're in the back watching a movie or whatever, they know you've got to get the hand sanitizer also. So when our son's born, I'm like, she's already instilled the fear in me. By that point, I'm like, are my hands clean enough to touch our son?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Because the nurses had him, and he's all slimy and cold-headed and got the little bonnet hanging off his head. And I'm freaked out. So she was in the middle of a CrossFit workout when her water broke. And we went home. We had just bought our first house, been married for about two years. She was like, I'm going to do my makeup and then we'll go to the hospital. Your water broke. I'm freaking out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I thought I needed to have... But we get there and her water broke, but she wasn't dilated enough. And then almost 24 hours later, he's born. So I'm like crackhead by that point. And he's born and I'm emotional and hungry and tired and all the things. And the nurse has him And he's looking, you know, all alien-like. And she's like, do you want to touch him? Do you want to see him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I walk over him like, you know. And as I'm reaching in his direction, his little hand reaches up and grabs my finger. And I started weeping. And not audibly, but in my spirit, I heard God say, I love you more than that. And I said, man, I don't deserve that. I don't deserve to be a dad. I don't know how to be a dad. I'm scared. I don't know how to do it right. I've never seen it done.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I'm a screw up. I started just thinking all these things. I was thinking, man, I was 30, 33 at that time. And I was like, man, my dad was 16. And I think like that moment, it was the beginning of me feeling some empathy for him. And some time passed and God started opening up some cool opportunities.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So I would say the way that you protect them is you inform them. So talk about sex in an age-appropriate way that is real and that is helpful. There's a book called A Good Book... I think it's Good Book, Bad Pictures. And so I think it's been around for about 20 years. But there's a theme in it that's helpful for even adults. There are bad pictures in the world that you probably will see.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I was on staff at Life Church for a while as an associate pastor and then took a teaching position in Iowa. And then kind of thing after thing started happening. I did Tucker and Candace Owens and a few other things and started getting a lot of momentum, a lot of opportunities. And God was just moving.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And kind of in the middle of that, I was in Dallas, actually, before we lived there, and I was staying at the Omni, and I'd woken up around like 2 a.m., and it's often, not super often, but often that God will wake me up, and I felt prompted to pray in the middle of the night. And I was lazy. So I was just like, I'm just going to lay here. And I began to think, like, hey, what am I doing?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And I just felt like super distracted. And then I started to think, it's almost like the Holy Spirit kind of brought to the forefoot of my mind, like, do you fear me? Do you revere me? The fear of the Lord rightly understood is reverence, not human fear. Do you revere me as Lord? Get on my face and begin to pray.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And then I started to see, almost like if you would go through a flip book, my dad, I don't know, The way that I would look out that glass, like looking for my dad, is my dad as a kid looking for me. And how it just got harder over time. And While I was feeling empathy, I was also feeling this bubble of rage at the same time. These two conflicting emotions, and I was just like, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I've screamed into my pillow before, especially the day that we found out we were pregnant for the first time, someone hacked my wife's Facebook and sent every single person, family, friends, grandma, my pornography. It's like we announced we're pregnant. Five minutes later. Damn. So moments like that, I was like, I don't know why.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Obviously, I'm like, man, I'd love to grab that IP address and go carb kick that person. But also, something in me, it was almost like the first thing I would think was like, man, Dad, if you would have been there, this stuff wouldn't have happened. I wouldn't be experiencing that. It's your fault. And it would go from like, it's your fault, to like, Dad, it's your fault.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Why couldn't you just be there? You were down the street. Like, why do you hate me? And then just my heart broke, and I'm just like, I have to forgive him. I don't know what that looks like, but I have to figure out a way. And then I tell my wife, my wife be my wife. She like messages.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
He's got, you know, I have a half brother and sister that I don't know very well, but she reaches out to Justin and then she gets his number. And then I end up with his number. And she was like, you know, very quickly, she's like, here you go. Do what you need to do. I called him, and we had that phone call.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And it was like, man, when I had that conversation with him, it didn't go exactly like I thought it would, but a million pounds came off of me. But what's really wild is in between that dream and that phone call, the weekend I had with Victor Marks was nuts. So we know Victor and it was, I think maybe it was like the third or fourth time I'd hung out with him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
But if you see those pictures, that doesn't make you bad. So if you see them, if you're hungry, run to mom and dad. Scared, run to mom and dad. See something you shouldn't see, come tell mom and dad so that we can process it with you. Because if you don't create a space to have that conversation, what you don't talk about says something.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And we were filming a spiritual warfare documentary. And he had interviewed me for that. And he's got this prayer, this retooling prayer where you identify, like, is there any demonic oppression on you? He calls them out. We did it on here. Yeah? Yeah. But he did that with me, and I was just like, you know, I would say I'm like,
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
You know, I'm, like, Baptist in my theology and Pentecostal in my expression. But, like, the demonic, you know, like, wasn't super familiar with, you know. Definitely experienced a lot of evil, but regarding stuff like that, not, you know, not super in tune with.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, and affirmation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Yeah, I mean, I would say.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I mean, I think you're really tapping into something important because the reality is that most people that struggle with porn, like porn is problematic in their life, but porn is not their problem. Like porn is the Band-Aid that they've covered the wound, the lack, the need with, and now the porn has become problematic in their life.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
So I would say that's the biggest problem with porn, sex in the church, where it's not talked about in the way that gives people a comfortability of talking about it. Because anytime that you would say porn or sex and you cringe, you probably have an unhealthy relationship with it. You know, so say, hey, you know, sex is this beautiful thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
where you started watching porn because of whatever, but it's covering something that's so much deeper. That's why helping people stop watching it, you shouldn't do that. We do stuff that I ought not do all the time. It's so much deeper than that. It's like, why? Why do I do what I do? In contrast of why do I do stuff that I don't want to do? Paul talks about that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
Why do I have this desire to do things I ought not do? Why do I find myself doing these things?
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
And then you're in. Well, a good trap would have camouflage. Mm-hmm. And I think that's why John 10.10 talks about the enemy wants to kill, steal, and destroy. And you're thinking about if he's going to put you in change, he's not going to show you the full picture of the chain that you will be in. He's just going to show you a link. That link's not a big deal. I love this Dallas Willard quote.
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
I believe it's Dallas Willard, but it just talks about how repentance seems easy, at first, and then after you sit, it seems impossible. You know? I mean, how, like, there's a demonic assignment on each person. And, you know, I think the, I would say the biggest problem, especially like in like Protestant circles, is this
Shawn Ryan Show
#196 Joshua Broome - "Rocco Reed," Inside The Adult Film Industry
this negligence or this disbelief that evil can tangibly impact your life as a follower of christ because are we without sin no and when we sin what do we do we we you know essentially invite an opportunity for deception you know so it's yeah i mean i i love uh the way that JP just lays it out there.