Joshua Mast
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Feb 2025
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And from there, both the Taliban is trying to get back to the negotiating table and the embassy is rightly trying to negotiate a peace, a legitimate peace. But I think we're fed a bad deal in case nobody saw like 2021. But the Taliban is specifically...
denying the presence of this group they formally announced it on their website like they're these reports are false this group isn't in afghanistan the weaker group possibly possibly yeah but i guess they called him turkistani but they're this al-qaeda group which is a condition of the peace deal so the taliban's not dumb like they fought us for 20 years right right so they have a strategic interest in this not being a thing
And so a colonel who was the action officer in the Pentagon testified in our board of inquiry in October. He said that six to eight false claimants came forward. They tested them for DNA, and they were negative. So, Glenn, why would six or eight people who are not relatives of this child come forward? And I think the answer is they were sent forward. Correct. Mm-hmm.
And so our concern at the time was that, hey, this is it could be someone who is being sent forward as a proxy of the Taliban. It could be someone who is just profiting off of like somebody trolling through a non-U.S. controlled area of Afghanistan and saying, want a baby? Mm hmm. You know.
because at the time there was pretty pretty severe conditions in afghanistan it's getting to be the fall into the winter time and we're getting reports that at least in kabul they were eating cats and dogs they were selling their youngest children to pay for the rest of their family to make it through the winter and so there were some significant you know economic conditions at that time when did uh john and jane doe
come into the picture so it really wasn't it was uh john doe's father he was uh these are the people that this is where the real battle begins yes and i and i would say at the outset of this is i don't blame these particular afghans everybody wants to come to america you know sure we blame the americans who know the truth and are covering this up and
Um, you know, they, they're coming from an environment where you're, you're living a little more hand to mouth and you have to survive. And I don't, uh, I have a lot of great Afghan friends that we've fought with and I respect. And so this isn't about really Afghans, but it's about what the state department did that was dangerous, like objectively dangerous. So here's how it fits in.
Um, we get told to stay. DoD gets told to stand down in December of 2019, um, there is a meeting, a critical meeting on December 31st between the embassy and the Afghan that we've been mentoring to basically have basic child safety procedures. He worked for Ministry of Labor.
And so we've been basically trained and advised and assisting them that you do a DNA test if there's somebody that comes forward and you vet people for terrorism, like not rocket science here. And they were very on board with that. And so they had a claimant come forward. And so they requested the embassy, who's the new lead, to do a DNA test of this person. But somehow...
The embassy reports to the Trump administration and their own agency that the Afghan DNA test, I think the white lie was it's not part of the Afghan process. And they've confirmed there's family members. And in reality... We spent two years to get this Afghan to America. He got here three days before our board of inquiry, as far as like, if you want to talk about the providence of God.
But this guy said the only person in the world who could contradict what the embassy is saying got to America a couple of days before we needed him to be here. And he said they asked for a DNA test and they denied it.
this he they personally this this particular afghan or embassy employee personally denied a dna test and so he said there was nothing else like they didn't have a photo id it was like some guy saying i'm i'm family and that's what the embassy forced them to go through with and uh So this man ended up being a, his claim was a lie.
Like, over the last three years, we can document, we've documented that.
Well, so the person who claimed to be a relative, who she was ultimately turned over to, claimed to be related to a dead, a person who was killed during that mission. I believe that's a lie. I think we can document that. So he was just lying. That's why you have precautions in place to vet people. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, they flew a flag over Bagram in her memory because they thought she was dead. It was so dangerous. And there was just no vetting at all. And what I think that sometimes powerful people don't realize is, you know, there's a lot of regular people out there that can show the homework on this stuff.
And I just thought that I don't think they ever thought they'd be held accountable for any of this stuff. And now, oh, fortunately for the last few years and some of the process we've gone through has been brutal, but we have the evidence now. And we're excited about the opportunity to, you know, I guess, what, show that.
Two days before the peace deal signed, the U.S. government, you know, through the embassy's representations, turns her over to an unvetted, what's turned out to be a non-relative terrorist affiliated person. Like the guy's got a Taliban flag on his WhatsApp profile.
And so everything we'd feared, everything we, I mean, as a captain, my wife and I sued the secretary of defense and the secretary of state. That's how convinced we were that this was objectively dangerous. Like I'm, I'm thinking my, my career is over, but I can't like sit here and not do every legal legal guardians.
Well, our government recognized our rights. Right. She was recognized as our daughter by headquarters Marine Corps. I'm calling on the phone explaining what we're doing. I mean, we're talking to the White House chief of staff. We're talking to the director of USCIS. Like as far as for a crazy situation, we're doing as by the book as we can for a unique one off situation.
And I what I think it's very important for the listeners to understand is. If all of the US intelligence was actually correct and the people that we sent our special operators to capture or kill were foreigners, all of this is a lie. Because if she really is who we thought she was the whole time, then all of this gloss is just smoke and mirrors. They had no reason to do what they did.
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