Julia Alexander

And that didn't go anywhere.

It launched for a couple of weeks and then it was shut down.

And so what are they doing now?

Mark Thompson, who runs CNN, is going to launch a streaming service.

And so this idea of what Jason Kolar wanted to do, which may or may not have worked long term, I think was the last point that there was a plan to do something on the innovation side with the assets as opposed to just collecting more assets.

And under Zaslav and under Paramount's plan, it is just a collection of the assets.

couple of different theories on this and they get more outlandish and sobriety as they go on.

But there's part of me that sees almost as parallel to what Larry Ellison might be thinking of doing.

And I don't speak to Larry Ellison on the regular, so I'm really just kind of projecting here what he might want to do to why AT&T originally bought Time Warner, which was this idea of things are happening on phones and

And I want to have some level of investment in TikTok.

I want to have some level of investment in what people are watching.

And can we create some kind of integration using the cloud computing aspects that we have to make this so that we collect a lot of data?

So we collect a lot of data and we do something with this.

And down the road, what actually is worth the gold bars is not the content, but kind of everything we're collecting around that content, which is very Mark Zuckerberg, right?

It's very like Sundar Pichai.

It's very much like this is what we, where a lot of the value of what we do comes in.

But the issue there is like, you have to have people on these platforms in order to collect that amount of data, to make it valuable, in order to kind of find what's really fascinating or interesting and

worth doubling down on investment-wise, you have to have the audience.

And Paramount Plus, even with a combined HBO Max, makes up a sliver of attention and engagement in the United States.

Both of them barely have any global presence.